Can't beat that. We will be waiting for the report.
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Can't beat that. We will be waiting for the report.
You're in for a gem of an experience.
Hopefully it's stock, or close to it. A car tire or aftermarket pipes obviously changes things.
I bought mine without riding it first. I just *KNEW* :icon_biggrin:
Don't be so smug George. I "knew" too. Its a Honda. Someone probably had to tell Stro.
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I wish he would have had that offer a couple of weeks ago.
I would not have read the Harley loving,F6B bashing comments within this thread and not had to go off on a rant about it.
I was so upset,I couldn't eat for a couple of hours.:icon_lol:
Doug
I know what you mean Doug. I started to not eat that piece of pie for dessert last night. Luckily cooler heads prevailed.
Wrong. I have seen it personally. Saw it May 23rd. FOB battery died, he came home on a trailer. They tried the "PIN" , didn't work.
http://www.cyclefish.com/forum/Harle...de-2762-1.html
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I wanted to remind everyone how important it is to set the manual PIN override for your Harley Davidson alarm system.
With the newer HD Security Systems using proximity FOBs where the key FOB needs to be close to the bike to start, this is now more important then ever. If the battery in your FOB dies and you have not set your Harley Alram Override PIN Code, you will not be starting your bike. It is just as important for those with oler Harley Davidsons with the push button alarm FOB. It you set your alarm and the battery dies before you return to your bike, again you will not be starting the bike.
http://www.harley-davidsonforums.com...b-battery.html
Interesting posts on those links. Doesn't sound like a well thought out or a well made system.
Keyfobs use EXACTLY the same wireless transmission technology as TPMS in your tires. The batteries in those things can EASILY be made to last 5 to 10 years; I didn't read too deeply but if these guys are having dead batteries after only a year or two... that's just not cool.
And it is typically not an issue if you set a PIN and remember it correctly if the FOB dies.
But if you don't... :icon_doh:
So you will blame the bike for a stupid rider? Like I said, BS, my PIN is set...
And quoting a 6 year old post, too funny...
Shorts on a motorcycle?
Your just asking for a good case of pavement rash my friend riding a large motorcycle with shorts on....A few years back I got stung by a bee right in my crotch riding with shorts, and as I am allergic to bee-stings, I almost did not make it home...If you want to hear some other negative reasons, ask those that work in Emergency rooms in hospitals...My son-in-law, who also rides, is a Supervisor in an Emergency room in Oklahoma and he will be more than willing to share his horror stories with you....Please be careful and ride safe.....
Idk about that Brian; you'd have to explain that one to me.
The batteries are what they are from the battery vendor. The problem as I see it with key fobs or TPMS sensors that don't last long is either they cheaped out and are using low mAhr batteries, or they designed the form factor too small to use the *slightly* larger high mAhr batteries. The 25 mm coin cells can now be had in 1,000 mAhr versions; look up the part number on your battery and find the spec for it. If Toyota or Nissan are using lesser batteries, they didn't do you any favors.
Battery rating is only half of the equation; power draw of the circuit is the other half. These circuits spend most of their time in sleep mode in which case the current draw should be well down into the single digit microAmp range for an IC using modern technology. A 1,000 mAhr battery could drive this usage continually for literally 20 or 30 years. The big power draw occurs during signal transmission where current draw can jump to 50 to 200 milliAmp, again depending on the technology of the IC's.
So, for the battery in a fob to get drained prematurely, it must be transmitting quite frequently. The transmissions can ONLY occur in one of three ways: 1) the software is programmed to transmit at a fixed interval; as in the case of TPMS sensors, 2) a standard 125 kHz low frequency comm device has been incorporated and it received a transmission instruction from a diagnostic tool; as in the case of what shops use to test TPMS, or 3) a button is pressed; as in the case of most key fobs.
There's nothing a cell phone can do to cause a key fob to transmit, other than pressing against a button in your pocket. Cell phones transmit in the GHz range and there's no POSSIBLE way to interfere with the 125 kHz circuit... and even if it did, there are safeguards in the software to minimize interference; certain signal patterns have to be recognized before a device will accept an instruction as valid, otherwise the signal and instruction are ignored.
In the case of these Harley alarm fobs, since no interaction is needed, it seems to me that Harley designed them to transmit continually at fixed intervals like a TPMS sensor. Further, if this is the case, they would have to program the intervals to be SMALL; I mean who wants to sit on their bike for 5 minutes waiting for the next transmission.
The interval is probably 5 or 10 seconds... and unless they're using a big honkin battery, this will indeed drain one in a short while; 6 months to 2 years is not unreasonable. This is what I mean when I said it might be a poor design. If they just put a button on it the darn thing could easily last 10 years between battery changes.
I'm not making a statement about Harley, per se; I'm just making a conjectured observation.
Oh no. Another TPMS thread!!!
Gawd Shooter, you're such a thread jacker.
So Greg, let us know when we can officially welcome you aboard :icon_mrgreen:
Seriously , nice of the dealership guy to offer his bike for a ride. They won't do that around here. Bought the 9 and the B without ever riding one. They have s Can Am demo next week but I'll be gone.
So, I hate to be a spoil sport but I think I have some pertinent information for you. I replaced my ST1300 with the F6b about two months ago because the ST was hurting my hips and knees. It did not however give me any spine problems. After several rides over 100 miles on the F6B I found that it is bothering my spine and not my hips. I am sure my spine is bothered because of the seating position and my spine taking all the bumps when the jarring to my body was spread out on the ST. I have been told by Goldwing riders that a back rest is crucial though I don't have one yet. I am researching seats (Mustang, Ultimate, Corbin) hoping for more lower back support. The stock seat has none, in fact I find myself typically sitting in such a position that the top of my butt is pushing against the slant at the back of the seat causing discomfort there as well.
Because of these issues I put the F6b up for sale one month after buying it but have since reconsidered and took the add down. I am still trying to sell my ST1300 that is in beautiful condition. I have found the F6B to be the best motorcycle I have ever ridden. Now I have to cure my back issue with a new seat and back rest or I may have two motorcycles for sale. I am 60 years old and if I can't get the F6B to work I am done riding.
Well I did it I put a $500.00 deposit on a Black 2013 F6B standard, but it won't come in until the end of the month.
yup. like there aren't any 6 year old harleys.... you DO know harleys last a bit longer than that, don't you?
do your own research. This will get you started.
http://www.hdforums.com/forum/genera...frequency.html
http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/el...m-02-flhr.html
And to Greg- CONGRATS! You won't be disappointed.
Welcome to the legend known as... GL1800!
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Way to go Greg O!
Congrats and I hope you enjoy every mile.
Doug
Excellent deposit. Pics when she arrives.
Congrats Greg. You're a smart man. You bought the fastest color. Research pays off.
All,
I have owned my F6B for a little more than a month and have almost 1,500 miles on it. I have ridden many bikes, from an old Sears and Roebuck, several harleys and more honda's all of them have their goods and bads. I have liked everything about this forum but this BS bashing is just juvenile and when I looked at the age survey I thought we were all adults and above this.
+2 Cents
The only convincing you need is a test drive!