Opas Ride, I agree with you 100%, I hope someone does a review on the Mustang seat, I'm tired of spending a lot of money and getting junk.
Jakec
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Opas Ride, I agree with you 100%, I hope someone does a review on the Mustang seat, I'm tired of spending a lot of money and getting junk.
Jakec
Trouble is, one mans junk is another mans treasure! :icon_wink:
I'm looking at the V + H Monsters,,, just looking,,, They are chamber muff's instead of the old school 'tube with a baffle in it',,,
Pretty pricey,,, Believe I'll stay with OEM for now,,,
You can pull out the baffles and wrap them with muffler glass packing . Should quit it down .
I have the baffles wrapped with fiberglass, it helped but not enough, I still have to wear ear plugs when running at 55to75. I am considering putting a baffle in each side before the six pipes otherwise is anybody looking to buy some cobra 626 pipes?
Jakec
Jake, how much do you want for those Cobra 6-2-6 pipes ? You can send me a PM if you want. :shhh:
I am sorry u dont like them! i guess 45 years of Drag racing is still in my blood i think there are to quiet :icon_doh:
Miles, I would take $550.00 Shipped. The baffles are wrapped with fiberglass so I don't know how hard it would be to remove the baffles. The pipes have about 400 mi. on them. There is a slight wavy imperfection in the left rear. They came from the factory like this but it is so slight it won't show up in a picture. No one other then me has noticed this. If you buy them and you don't like them send them back [you pay freight] and I'll give you your money back.
Jakec
Jake, thank you for the info, and the price, but I think for that price I will either buy new ones...for $ 109.00 more (that includes shipping), or I will buy the Torqmaster Daytona pipes.
And Jake, since you are not 100% happy with them, and...as you say, they do have a slight wavy imperfection on them, go ahead and let your supplier know, and send them back for a full refund.
Thanks though,
Miles
This weekend I'm going to pull one Baffle out of each side. It's quite possible this could generate some sound characteristics which could cancel or change resonance. Maybe left side lower, right side upper, left inner, right outer, etc. More likely than not, my scoot will be dressed in an OEM exhaust outfit by Monday. My next post could be in the Merchandise For Sale Forum :-}
This past Monday I had the fortune and opportunity to ride kdelders bike (kevin), and he has a very good tone to his Cobra 6-2-6 pipes. He has baffles in 2 pipes on each side, and the one pipes that does NOT have the baffle in it...on each side...is the longest pipe. So, look at your pipes...find the one that is longest on each side, remove the baffle from that ONE...on each side, and the sound is pretty darn good.
Is this a good idea???Seems to me it would present uneven back pressure issues in the engine exhaust system and could lead to motor/valve issues down the road...I am no mechanic , but maybe someone should question this issue with Cobra exhaust people...I would love the nasty drone to go away with my 6-2-6 pipes and will probably go back to stock this next spring if no one can fine a solution..Running without baffles is way to loud for me...I will plan to call Cobra tomorrow and ask the question of one baffle out on each side and see what they say......
Please understand that it is with great respect...for a 74 year old rider...that I address this and say that there will be NO problem in removing one, two, or all three baffles, to get the coorect level of sound...lack of drone...for your bike. The baffles are located far down stream of the exhaust collecvtor, which in itself is down stream of the header-pipes, which have the O2 sensor in them. If we were talking about altering a header pipe, or dumping the exhaust by way of a header pipe, then that would relate to your concerns. But given how far down stream the baffles are, in relation to the engine and valves, there will be no problems here.
How does one remove these baffles??? As noted I have been riding for many years, some bikes with stock pipes, some without, but never had this nauseating drone sound before. Don't remember if my Valkyrie Cobra pipes had baffles or not, but they were straight 6 into 6, not like the current ones for the F6B. I really like the looks of these pipes and the sound is okay when the speeds are under 50 or so, but as said by some at freeway speeds, they can really get obnoxious. I might try the baffle thing if not a big deal, otherwise I will wait until spring and have the dealer do it, or return to the stockers unless I get used to the drone by next spring.....Thanks for the response
I talked with Mike at Cobra this afternoon and he assured me they are going to look into the drone issue with the 6-2-6 pipes and see if they can duplicate the noise issue and try to find a possible solution...I will try removing one of the baffles after I talk with them again in a week to see if this makes any difference..I am going to hold up on the baffle until the guy at Cobra has a chance to discuss this with the engineers and then go from there....Hopefully they can find a solution as this drone noise at highway speeds is killing my ears......
My Service guy was interested in test driving my scoot today. He heard the drone with a full-face helmet and it just confirmed I wasn't going crazy. I tried removing baffles one at a time. They came out easy enough, so I didn't mind spending some time trying different combinations. No help for me. I let my friend ride the bike today. He's 6'2, and said although he heard the drone clearly enough, and it was much louder than his, to him, it was not intolerable. He's got a 2003 with Cobra Tri-Oval's.
So I put the stock pipes back on. Took us all of 1/2 hour to remove the Cobra's and re-install the stock pipes. I guess it really sucks that you can't test ride a set of pipes before you buy, but for now I'll stick with stock. At least I can say I exhausted all possibilities :banghead:
The Cobra's are for sale.
I agree that this drone with the Cobra pipes "sucks"...I did test ride an F6B at the dealer and it had the Cobra's on it with the stock windshield..The wind noise was so bad for me that I heard the drone but not near as badly as when I picked up my own bike and rode it home. The drone at 55-75mph was very noticeable and somewhat irritating, but I lived with it until I got home...I thought maybe it was my helmet or the Baggershield windshield that caused it, but no....Later that week rode the same dealer test bike with my own helmet and the drone was just a bad even with the stock shield....I will keep my pipes for now as the riding season is pretty much over in Michigan, but if nothing is done on Cobra's end with some possible solutions, my pipes will also be for sale soon...Glad I kept the stockers....But hate to take a huge hit on my 6-2-6's as I paid the full MSRP to have them dealer installed...Won't do that again...(Live and learn as they say)...
Hi guys, I drilled out my stock pipes front and back (got a little carried away).
Anyway, I had the drone.
When I was on holidays, I stopped and saw Jimmy at Tourque Masters, I had him remove the CAT's, I know some here don't agree with this, but I did this to improve the flow of the exhaust as I am waiting for the black Cobras, one unseen benefit of removing the CAT's was the drone was noticeably reduced. It is not bothersome at all now.
There is no way to tell if adding the Cobra's will bring it back, but I am betting on No.....Good luck out there.
Black Dragon project continues into the snowy season....stay tuned for more.
Opas,
I'm sorry to hear that the exhaust is too loud for you. By any chance do you have an aftermarket windshield?
Just a heads up; We tested this exhaust with over 8 different sets of baffles until we got, what we thought was the correct tone for the bike. The baffles we ended up going with were the most quiet ones we could build without negatively affecting the performance of the bike. We will not be offering a quieter baffle for the Six-2-Six as of now, or any time in the near future. If you plan on removing one or more of the baffles, that will most likely only make it louder. We offered this exhaust with removable baffles since we knew some would prefer a louder bike, being that an F6B rider is different than a GoldWing rider. Also, it is difficult to create an aftermarket system for the GL1800 without creating some sort of drone. When comparing stock to aftermarket, there will always be more drone unfortunately.
I'm sorry that the drone is bothering you, but that is the most quiet we could get this particular system.
Have a great day.
Cobra, I liked the sound, and while I did NOT take the bike out onto the highway and run it at highway speeds for a long period of time, I think that Kevins' bike has little to no drone to it. On my own F6B, as a temporary solution...while I wait for this Winter to come...and by then most aftermarket manufacturers will have their final products for the F6B available with no wait-list...I went ahead and drilled my OEM exhaust, and after some fine tuning, I have little to no drone, and my pipes sound as good as any Cobra, Rush, or Torqmaster pipes I have heard.
But...before all the wise-crackers on here pipe up (pun intended), my hearing has been seriously affected by being hit with a lightning strike on the helmet, on 9-5-13. So with blown out ear drums, I don't hear as well as most people do. However, I can still hear THE drone...at highway speeds, for longer distances, if I intentionaly make my exhaust drone. I don't want to do that...intentionally...that is why I have it fine tuned (again, pun inteded)
To be honest with you, I know how to fix the drone problem on the new 6-2-6 pipes, but...I contacted Cobra in a PM, and the response was to blow me off, so I am keeping my secret fix close to the vest, and sharing it only with :cheers: :beer3: :alc: :biker: :motorcycle2:
And I don't even drink !
I did get a nice response from Cobra on the drone issue...I am pleased with the sound it is just the constant drone that is hard to bear..At my age of almost 74 I am not into noise so much, but do like a pleasant sound..I am curious as to whether or not this drone will, over time, effect my hearing? If so, off come the pipes and I will go back to stock...The question was asked about what type of windshield I have which leads me to believe the engineers at Cobra only tested the pipes/baffles on a bike with the stock shield...The wind protection is far more important to me than fancy pipes, so if nothing changes for the better for me by next year, I will go back to the stock pipes even though I really love the looks and low speed sound of the Cobras...I suppose I was expecting them to sound more like the old 6to6 pipes on my Valkyrie....I might remove the baffles and try that before I take them off...We'll see what the future brings...Also, I am hoping to get the chrome cover shield that is shown in the Cobra web-site on the F6B that covers the welds and clamps on the pipes..My source at Cobra indicated they would send them at no charge.....
So here are the elusive black pipes. Not exactly what i was hoping for especially with the silver clamps and having to reuse the chrome heat shield. Hopefully Cobra will QUICKLY create and sell a matching heat shield. On a positive note i like the sound and finish. :icon_wink:
Chrome heat shield with black pipes is odd enough but chrome clamp is just wrong! Must powder coat fast. It seems like Cobra is selling these pipes in black unfinished and you are forced to spend more money and time to get them right. I feel Cobra has dropped the ball on these.
I don't believe ANY aftermarket manufacturer provides or offers black forward shields with their black F6B slip-on pipes.
This will sound harsh, but why would anyone who's researched something fully before they bought it and understands what they are getting expect them to be included?
The clamp,,, I can see where they should be black. But, $5 for a can of high temp will fix that. (Or p-coat 'em,,,)
What to do now with your forward shields? Powder coat 'em like everyone else has had to do who's purchased black F6B slip-ons.
In the long run, it will be far less $$$ for you to p-coat 'em yourself than to pay for a 2nd set of shields in black from Cobra.
Maybe some day Cobra will offer the shields as a 'kit' option with the slip ons,,, I reckon the MSRP for that combined kit will be just shy of 1 large,,, And,,, with such a high MSRP, most will opt to either go chrome or p-coat their existing shields instead of buying the full kit,,, which in turn leaves Cobra with a low-demand item, the black forward shields,,,
Its all about the $$$. Always has been, always will be.
Hey Miles,
I didn't intentionally "blow you off". It is just a little difficult to be on multiple forums at all times and remember to check PM's. Anyways, I get tons of PM's regarding free exhaust systems and if I were to give everyone who asked what they wanted, we wouldn't sell anything. I myself am an enthusiast, just like you so I know where you were coming from, but I can't just give stuff away.
Thanks,
Dustin
Hey Dustin,
I'm thinking of getting 6-2-6 in Black. Can I get
Black clamps & Heat Shields with it. What are the $$$$$
for whole setup. :041: :clap2: :banana: :banana:
Thanks
Kawi69
C'mon Miles...Share your fix for the dreaded drone that comes with the Cobra 6-2-6 pipes......I might even buy you lunch one day if I ever get out your way....Regards, and I promise to keep it a secret!!!
Drone I still have no idea what that is !
My cobra 6 by 6 are awesome an are quieter than my drilled out pipes !
But I bought them for only 1 thing 6 pipes out the back !
Well,,, some things never will change,,,
No worries,,, the rest of us dumb bastards still know how to have fun! :icon_biggrin: :motorcycle2:
[QUOTE=Scotrod;15801]I don't believe ANY aftermarket manufacturer provides or offers black forward shields with their black F6B slip-on pipes.
Its not black but black chrome/nickel.Torq Masters gives you forward shields in black chrome/nickel.
Hey Kawi,
I told the engineering guys that we need to do something about the clamps, so hopefully at some point in the near future we will have black clamps. In the mean time, a quick shot with some black spray paint will do the trick to hide the clamps a little better. And as for shields, I don't know when that will happen to be honest. I will definitely let everyone know if/when we start producing black shields.
Thanks!
Dustin
Eh,,, Looks like quite a few posts were deleted here. Probably best to let this one die,,,
alscott,, the info/opinions you seek are listed in another thread:
http://hondaf6b.com/showthread.php?1...t=torque+loops
(I can not personally confirm or deny the effectiveness of the 2 different fixes mentioned.)
After a few months watching the posts on this issue, I have determined that the only way for me to stop the drone with my Cobra pipes is to live with it and ignore, or sell the things and go back to stocks......I will wait until Spring to decided after I ride for a few more weeks..Due to the lousy weather in MI. the bike is put away in the garage until next year...(Damn)....