One head - One life - only ONE OPTION - Wear it !
Without HELMET I couldn't enjoy my rides EVER !
One head - One life - only ONE OPTION - Wear it !
Without HELMET I couldn't enjoy my rides EVER !
I always wear a helmet. Half helmet for riding/crawling in parades. Other than that it is a full face helmet (Snell rated or better, not just DOT) for me. BTW the wife (she rides her own) wears hers all the time too.
With the stock F6B windshield a full face helmet is almost mandatory if riding at any speed.
HJC CL-17
Wear a 1/2 but thinking about geting a 3/4 for out on the freeway.....quieter.....
I read that thread in its entirety. So first--glad to see he is on the mend, if a long and tough road. I always wish a fellow rider long life and health.
But to depersonalize this (because I'm not going to kick a fellow rider while he's down and I truly wish him the best), I noted that the plea went out for donations for assistance with his medical bills. Isn't that another obvious reason why we should not think of helmet use as a purely personal choice? Because if we go down hard, as this man did, and we don't have a helmet, the medical bills (if we're lucky, and funeral expenses if we're not) will land on our loved ones or society. So no, it is not a purely personal decision unless you are able to carry the freight yourself for entirely preventable injuries.
As you probably know, in Canada we have free universal medical care. So our government has every right to insist and enforce our wearing of helmets, as it's every taxpayer who ends up footing the bill for all medical care.
I gladly make the trade off of freedom of choice for no cost medical.
I agree with 53. I hate restrictions. However if you choose to be careless it should be on you. I believe riding without a helmet is foolish. But you can do it if you want.
And back in Realityland, who is ever going to check their net worth before deciding whether or not to wear a helmet? Most blokes don't even check their tire pressure.
Mandatory helmet laws is one of the easiest ways to save lives and unnecessary injury, at the minuscule cost of depriving people of the option of making a dumbass decision about whether or not to wear a helmet.
Reality-land? As in California? Y'all so used to having Pelosi and Feinstein make your choices for you, you surely have forgotten what having a choice actually is. Starbucks or Dunkin'? Hmmm.
Everyone knows if they have proper medical coverage/mishap insurance - in fact, in part thanks to those two elected clowns - it is MANDATORY now. You do, or you get fined.
If you want a "mandatory" statute, how about a mandatory MSF course before one can be licensed to ride a motorcycle? And then perhaps follow-on courses get a mandated insurance reduction?
OBTW, I ALWAYS wear a Full Face helmet because I agree that the risk isn't worth the benefits - but it is my educated, informed choice which I shall advocate to others, but not force upon them.
This isn't a Socialist country - yet - in spite of many elected officials' actions.
Food for thought: how many "minuscule costs" are taken before liberty is eroded?
That "orb' which resides on ones shoulders is a precious and fragile thing. The ability to use it is a gift beyond comprehension. There are enough calamities throughout life that can harm/injure the contents and quickly turn that orb into a useless container. Many years ago I certified as a EMT (Emergency Medical Technician). Not long after, I was on a ambulance run responding to a cycle accident. Having the first hand opportunity to observe a victim laying on the hard ground with the content of their skull weeping from their nostrils and ear canals has left a indelible mark in my mind and on my soul. More profound was the fact that I knew the victim and his family. Helmets are cheap....heads and their contents are priceless. It's not hard to understand why Emergency Room Doctors and Nurses are the biggest supporters of "Helmet Laws". The great thing about choice is to "connect that choice to reason". That requires tiny grey brain matter and neurons to communicate. Having that precious cargo strewn over some highway or curbstone can quickly and permanently sever all connections:icon_frown:
Ones choice to become a "Ward of the State" and be on "Life Support" with no "Living Will" or "Advanced Directive" is a personal choice. It's unfortunate that they have passed that responsibility of "when to finally pull the plug" on family:icon_frown:
Well put. Having another human die in your arms is never forgotten.
Everyone should have a living will or Advanced Directive - especially if you engage in potentially deadly recreational activities like motorcycling, parachuting, or even commuting on the 95 or 405 in a cage.
Don't make it harder on those you leave behind.
I'd be satisfied with the government telling me I have to wear a helmet (which would be dumb and incredibly irresponsible for me to disobey anyway). I see that as a zero threat to liberty.
On the other hand, this is the same government with forfeiture laws enforced by local police forces to their own benefit (read up on this if you haven't; it will make your blood boil), that reads our emails and text messages, that snoops on our phone calls, strip searches us at airports, tells us what drugs we can and cannot take, and who we can and cannot marry.
I think the libertarian agenda should have many more and bigger fish to fry before working its way down to helmet laws.
Where do you draw the line? And at what point do you actively object?
I agree wholeheartedly. And yes, it pisses me off to no end.
Maybe it does. I am not a "Libertarian" by label or marque. I do firmly believe that "less gov't" is better than more.
When the traffic on the DC beltway is no longer congested, I'll take that as a sign the gov't is getting its own act under control.
If one does not like living in the USA and its Government intrusions in your life, try living in China, North Korea, Russian or the Middle East for a while and then decide what is the best place to be....!!!..I don't like the way our Government operates very much either, but it beats the "crap" out of most other countries to make our lives somewhat easier...JMHO
Well, looking at the topic of the thread from the OP................................................ ........................................
Helmet or No Helmet, Not a debate! A simple do you wear always or sometimes. :stirthepot:
I wear a full face all the time. Its mandatory here in NY but I wear it everywhere, regardless of its required or not. I did have a time in my life in TX where I did not wear unless I had to go on base where they were mandatory. I understand those who choose not to wear but for me its just too obvious that it really saves lives...... plus its lightweight, great in the rain, has great visibility, and is pretty quiet.
Y'all crack me up. No one mentioned anything about "not liking living in the USA" but undeniably, the government intrusions are getting more and more persistent and impertinent.
Relative to other countries, well, duh. No kidding. I wore a uniform for over 29 years. I've been to other countries. Australia, Philippines, China, Korea, Kuwait, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, xxxistan. I've seen what they do and that's totally irrelevant to the debate.
My point was that the US gov't is getting too big for its britches, is impeding freedom of choices while completely restricting others, has managed to outspend the taxpayers' affordability of the #2 economy on the planet, and when there are already too many laws for the current Dept of Justice to enforce, the answer - according to many - is obviously a larger enforcement branch. Welcome to the Matrix. At what point do "We the People" say enough? I recommend a thorough reading of the Constitution and see if you like where the country is headed....
I'm old enough to see the changes that are taking place. I don't like it either. I've read the constitution many times. My post was not directed at anyone here on the board, rather as a broad paintbrush to those in this country who do nothing but complain about it. I just read an article that said that in the 1990's only 20% of Russians had a bad view of the US. Today that number is 76%. (See Drudge report). Thank you for your service to our country.
Welcome to the Putin era. He has been using state-owned media to stoke anti-American sentiment for quite a few years now, and it's working. Big surprise there.
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debat...shest-critics/
To the list of reasons you might not wear a bike helmet – they’re hot, they muss your hair, they’re massively dorky – Swedish company Hövding adds one more: they just don’t work that well. Luckily, they have a solution.
In 2006, Lund University industrial design students Anna Haupt and Terese Alstin decided to invent a better helmet as a class project. The first obstacle to overcome was aesthetic; people (notably the two students) simply don’t like to wear helmets. But their research also found that traditional plastic and foam brain buckets allow G-forces that lead to fatalities in an alarmingly high percentage of accidents. Their breakthrough design – a motion-triggered inflatable helmet – shields a much greater portion of the head and neck, and provides a softer landing.
+1 :yes: (and any other little icon's that express agreement)
My wife and I have read the constitution and like you, have spent lots of years all over the world .....
It's concerning to us the direction this country is going in.
And we both feel it was an honor and privilege to serve this country ......
And that the 2 cents worth of a couple of retired Navy Chiefs ......
My spouse wore khaki for 24+ years. I wore khaki for 4 years at Canoe U - where we met, then went to USMC khaki & green.
No truer words: "ALWAYS trust the Chief!"
Thank you both for your service and the PITA to serve through multiple duty stations and disjointed detailers.
Cheers,
Steve
I always use helmet, first cos here in Europe is compulsory to wear it and second cos im craneo-maxillofacial surgeon and I've seen awful injuries after motorcycle crash...
I use a Schuberth C3 Pro
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Nothing like reviving a thread for a good one-liner
Hi,
guys, here in Europe there is no doubt now about wearing a helmet. The dicussion about yes/not has been, if any, 40 years ago.
Nobody here speaks about losing rights or intrusion in how your life has to be. An overall protection when riding a bike, regardless which type of bike, is not something we shall disuss, sorry.
Please think about your family.
And the Government/insurances think about consecuences for their budgets.
I kindly beg you not to missunderstand this, it´s for you and your relatives. It´s something you should do without even losing a second.
Even the quick trip to the bakery, helmet and gloves for sure.
The discussion has to be, which one is more convenient to me? I use System Evo from BMW, but it doesn´t fit the saddle bags of our bike (in right one only with violent closing)
HJC RPHA MAx fittes well both sides.
Best regards
Alex
Is there a vote button our do we just post?
I wear mine about half the time. Not safe, but I am an adult. I don't know how many times I have seen this question posed with the caveat to just vote and keep your personal opinions to your self. I guess we just can't help it.
"To each his own!"
Period.
We just pulled a guy out of the woods the other day , harley guy no helmet on him or his girl .
He lost it on a turn and we seen him go right in the woods ... We got them out , from what I seen he needed a new eye socket and jaw ... that was a mess and his girl she got off easy broken clavical and some scratches .
Harley guy saved by a bunch of guys on jap bikes ... LOL