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Boy did you hit the nail right on the head!!!!
I had the Cobra Six-2-Six blacked out exhaust installed when I purchased my bike new. On the way down to Baltimore, Glen Bernie PowerSports, the mechanics called and informed me that the bike sounded awesome. But, if I wanted it to sound even more "aggressive" they could remove the baffles. I had him on speaker, and my brother was driving, so I immediately mimic the Mexican banditos in Humphrey Bogart's The Treasure of the Sierra Madre = "Baffles!?! We don't need no stinking baffles!!!":moon:
I honestly don't believe this bike could have sounded any better. I even bought a Porsche wheel emblem and stuck it on the back. As a matter of fact, an old school Harley rider, during Delmarva Bike Week in Ocean City MD, told me that my bike sounded like a Lamborghini. (I had to omit all the expletives he used for this public forum.)
Unfortunately, after adding my Klock Werks windshield and Mustang seat the drone became unbearable around 2500-3000 RPMs. I don't think it was really that noticeable after installing the windshield; although the "clean air bubble" did make the stereo seem much clearer and louder and thus some amount of noticeable reverberation was added. But, when I installed the Mustang saddle, at the Delmarva Bike Week, and dropped down just that little inch, the drone was undeniable. Sure I could power thru it by avoiding the 2500-3000 RPM band. But not at highway speeds. Driving back home to Philly I was trapped on the highway doing 65 to 70 MPH right in that power band for hours. It was Brutal! My ears felt like they were bleeding after a couple of hours of non-stop riding. I even took off my full-face helmet at one point to find some relief.
The next weekend I made the three hour "ride of shame" back to Glen Bernie PowerSports to have the baffles put back in. Their service department reinstalled them for free and even offered uplifting stories relating to bad performance car exhaust experiences. True professionals!
Fortunately, there is absolutely no noticeable drone now with my bike as it is setup. I still get plenty of compliments about its "race car" sound and the six shooters sticking out the back attract plenty of attention even when the bike is simply parked. I would certainly recommend the Cobra Six-2-Six exhaust to anybody who asks me. I would even recommend trying them without the baffles = BUT = make sure you have the ability to quickly replace them. .batman-smilie.
Just installed Torq Loopz and black TBR's. Install not too bad, just getting shields back in place the hardest part. I took the advice of others on the site and put two gaskets end to end on each pipe which completely fills the fitting on the Torq Loopz plus leaves a little sticking out the end. Cranked the barrel clamps down to 27 NM and no leaks. Sounds great, no decal popping or any problems. This setup is not loud, and at cruising speed barely noticeable, and when you let off the throttle, just as quiet as stock. Great setup!
Tbone--We have the same setup and like you, I couldn't be happier :biggthumpup:. Many complain of leaks with the Loopz, sometimes occurring immediately and sometimes taking a little time to show up. That's why I believe you were wise to double up on the short gaskets provided and I assume you also used some type of exhaust fittings sealer. We should not expect to have any leaks now or ever.
Did you put the sealer on the edge of the fittings after the clamps were tight? Or did you put the sealer on the gasket before it was inserted into the pipe? Also, do you think there is any reason to put sealer around the angled pipe that fits into the TBR pipe?
After my first Loopz installation that was a total failure :icon_redface:, I went with the double gaskets and coated the gaskets with exhaust joint compound. Needless to say, I wasn't taking any more chances. I believe the most important joint, with regard to exhaust leakage, is the incoming joint to the Loopz. For the angled pipe going into TBR, I believe the supplied Permatex anti-seize compound is sufficient.
Brocks Performance slip ons:
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I have to agree, when installing a more free flowing exhaust, to get more HP and torque you should add more fuel and possibly tweek timing settings. Also air intake has a lot to do with adding performance. They all work in unison together. More air in, add fuel and expel exhaust faster. This is basically how more power is made. Sometimes dyno results forget to mention other factors that were used to achieve favorable results. Pipes alone could do just the opposite and hinder peformance
Video clips and write up on experiences are in the video section
Just installed the 2BR slip on's on a 2013 F6.
I had a 2Bro's titanium exhaust on my 2004 ST1300 and I loved the sound but it did have a slight drone.
So, the drone everyone talks about on the F6, wow. I never knew what drone was until I road this set up. Is not all time, bottom and top end sound great, lower mid-range is almost intolerable.
I am going to try an insert/sound reducer(2BR-P1x) and see if a little back pressure makes any difference, if not I will try torque loops.
It is definitely personal preference, but this is my hot rod so the performance and exhaust note are important.
Are you sure TBR Power Tips are available for your new slip on's? When I first installed my TBR's, I checked with them and was told no tips were available. Maybe that has changed since I bought mine :shrug: After that, I went ahead and added the Loopz which took care of the drone. To me, the exhaust tone is simply intoxicating.
I finally got around to installing my TBR (Chrome with Carbon Fiber Tips), and I LOVE THEM!!!
Tbone, I'm glad you like the setup. I have the same setup as you and Hornblower. Mine didn't go quite as smoothly as your's sounded it did. I know HB responded to your question but I'll give my input as well. I put muffler sealant all over the gasket and then again all over the edge of the fitting after the clamps were tight. I also HAD to use muffler sealant around both ends of the angled slip tube. I had condensation leaking at the 6 o'clock position of the muffler itself as well, a heavy leak, so sealed it up inside there too. I used a flexible Bic grill lighter to check for exhaust leaks (which I had many) at all the joints and through trial and error, eventually got everything leak-free. My project did not end there though. After everything was leak-free, found that the position of the tabs on the torq loops was off by just enough to make the body pieces (mainly the lower manifold cover) not able to go back on. SO, I'm back to either taking everything off, or trying to slide it back just enough for the pieces to fit. In hindsight I should've test fitted the plastic but that hindsight doesn't take the sting out of having to break all my leak seals to readjust. I haven't had it any further than just down the road and back but I'm already in love with the sound, the only thing keeping me going. :icon_wink: I wish I would've gotten a hold of extra gaskets like you did when I did my initial install. They're now weeks out from being available, but I got it leak-free with just one per side already, should be able to do it again. A few pics of my sloppy sealant job....Attachment 20612Attachment 20615Attachment 20616Attachment 20618Attachment 20617
Just put Rush 4 inch slip-ons (2.25 baffle) with the black (4026B) end cap. Look and sound great. Have 500 miles with no drone. I bought the exhaust from Value Accessories and they are great to deal with.
I'm running the Cobra 6 into 6. Love them,
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Took about 90 minutes. The hardest part was getting the slip tubes fully seated into the mufflers. I used the supplied anti-seize stuff on the the slip tubes as well as the existing headers. After that piece of cake. I love the sound. No droning. 2015 F6B. BTW, purchased on Amazon for $615 from Powersport Superstore. Arrived in a few days with free shipping. Crazy.
Cobra 6's with Torq Loopz. Gaskets installed with red permatex inside and out. No leakage. yet.
Heat shield reinstallation an exercise in patience.
Call me the oddball wiseacre 44-year-old of the group-but perfectly good with the stock exhaust. To each their own. . My F6B's a couch with two wheels. If I want noise I get a Ducati or Harley. Question for those that know the model through the years-does the stock exhaust remain the same from 2013 to the present?
Stock and wish it were quieter.:039:
Nothing oddball at all. My last Hardly was a stage 2 103" FLHT Standard with an RB Racing 2-1 header. Went back to factory mufflage and was happier. Im currently out over the road working right now so I haven't had a chance to put any miles on my B since I put on the loopz and cobras so the jury's still out as to whether I will live with them or fall out of love with them. Worse case I will keep the loopz and put the stockers back on.
just put Torque Loops on the bike but because I had previously voted it can't be reflected in the poll.
Black cobra no baffles, ignition and runner from dynoJet. No drone and sounds bad ass, my other bikes are jealous.
Two Brothers carbon tip
Freedom Performance
Just threw a set of Bassani pipes on and LOVE the sound…
Thanks wroc1….:yes:
I augmented the stock pipes with a very quiet helmet and foam ear plugs.
Since I got old, I like stock, on F6b and Charger Hemi,'71 Chevy choptop pickup is a throwback to my younger days and loud, I now like sneaking up on people.:icon_wink:
Removed 4 of 6 baffles leaving 1 baffle on each side. Certainly doesn't sound like a Harley, but I like it better than stock. And yes, I thought seriously about a Harley but I went for the dependability of the F6b over exhaust note.
Man, at the price of "slip ons" for this bike, I might get the torq loopz and that's it. I'd buy a seat before pipes. Or parts for my Mustang GT.... :icon_lol:
I'm new to F6B riders. I just had mine delivered last Sunday. Love it, love it, love it! It has Two Brothers Racing Exhaust (black and carbon fiber) on it. The sound described on this forum as drone is very prevalent with a full face helmet. Extremely annoying at RPM's above 2500. No helmet or half helmet is just fine with no drone. The pipes look great, sound is good, but not overly impressive. I would of left stock on and I'm glad I got the stock exhaust from the seller. I'll probably switch it back to stock for any long distance rides that leads me to wear a full face helmet. I'm open to any suggestions to cure this unfortunate annoyance.
I dont want to hijack this thread....if I need to be re directed please do so. But..... is there any dyno hard data that shows that slip on exhaust and torque loops increase HP and or torque?
Has anyone put the F6B on the dyno before doing the pipes and loops to get a reading and then after the installation of pipes and loops put it back on the dyno to check the numbers?
or is this all a sound thing?
Kuryakyn Polygon integrated exhaust tips. They don't change the sound at all, they just look awesome and redirect the exhaust down. Attachment 23660