It's true. Scotrod is the only guy that gets kicked out of banks and convenience stores for NOT wearing his full face helmet inside. :yikes::catfight:
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Yup,,,, And they require either a dark smoke or a mirrored visor as well,,,
Gets friggin hot standing in line,, have to ask everyone to speak up,,, It ain't easy bein ugly,,,, :icon_frown:
After reading each post in all the 15 or so pages I have determined I will be ordering a Madstad. I am looking for some input on the difference in full up vs full down. I see so many measurements but have not seen a full up vs down. I (like most) look over my shields, but ride in a lot of farm country and have the need to look through at times to keep my head out of the bugs. Measuring from the dash up (Jabbasan showed or Clearview Shields has us measure, ) the 16 1/2' Honda Tall shield works well for me as I can slide down in the seat and stay bug free but is a bit too tall to see over unless I sit up real straight. Any idea how I can come up with a determination which Madstad will give me the adjustment of,,,, say 15 down to 18" up from the dash..
If the 16.5" Honda shield works well for you, I'd say the 11" Madstad is all you need.
But... I don't know where your 18" requirement came from. If you are looking for additional coverage for the passenger, the 13" Madstad may be better.
With the 16 1/2' shield I either need to slide down in the seat for better bug coverage, or sit up straighter to see over. I just figure an adjustable shield to cover 15" to 18" would work.. I can't seem to remember off hand without going back and rereading posts how much adjustment the Madstad has.
DMAGOLDRDR,
I'm 6'-2", my girlfriend is 5'-4" and we both ride my F6B with the 11" shield. All the way down for my girlfriend, about one inch from the top for me. Total travel as I recall is just under 4". This photo is with the 11" shield set up for me. We set it down approx 3" when she rides.
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I tried the 13" shield and my girlfriend said as a passenger it was no different from the 11" as far as passenger comfort & wind protection. The bike looks better to us with the 11" shield and we have ridden long distance in all kinds of weather with it.
You have to remember that Madstad recommends a shield angle of 60 degrees (this works best for me). Stock shields sit at approx 45 degrees, point being as the Madstad is tilted up towards the 60 degrees it comes closer to entering your field of vision. So trying to compare Stock shield heights to Madstad shield height is really apples & oranges.
Hope this helps.
In my experience I've never had to look through the Madstad. Properly adjusted you shouldn't have to.
Just installed the Madstad 11" last night and took it up to the Blue Ridge Parkway this morning between the Meadows of Dan, Va and Lowgap, NC for a test.
This windshield does everything it is advertised to do. It is just so smooth even at high speed that you forget how fast you are going. Fantastic equipment!
Glad I bought it and I'll have a 13" Opaque Cee Bailey's windshield for sale shortly.
No question. This is one piece of kit that works as advertised. And by the way, I think the dark tint looks good on this bike.
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Anyone know why Madstad quit selling the brackets that have many more adjustments than the ones being furnished now? Those of us that bought early have a lot more adjustment options than the newer ones.
Don't know, but assume most folks didn't use all the holes, plus, some of those holes simply wouldn't work on our bikes, and,,,,, less punching/reduced cost to manufacture,,,
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Ancient Chinese secret.
Maybe had something to do with the whistling some people were reporting.
I'm just throwing it out there seeing that the folks at Madstad must be busy and haven't got back to me yet for my order.
On every one of my other Motorcycles I have put in a Windshield Vent to get some extra air on hot days. Has anyone tried a vent or does that not work due to their design.
I already have the Baker Wings under the mirrors and think that may be enough...
Hmmm, that's surprising. I would call them back, and ask "Do you want my business or not?" If I was the owner of a business and an employee didn't take an order, I would be upset. I have talked to them several times and they always took care of me right away. I ordered a clear shield as an alternative to the smoked one I first bought, and had it in 2 days. Weird. If they needed to get someone to answer your questions before you ordered then I understand.......and the above doesn't apply!:iduno:
I know Mondays are pretty busy here at my shop also, so I'm ok with it. If I don't hear from them first thing in the AM then they will get another call because I hope to get it for this weekend. I have a couple hundred mile highway ride and I would rather take the F6B and that will give me the chance to dial in the height and angle on that Madstad Shield to get the quiet I am after . If not the ole Valk will make the run.
I received the Madstad Windshield a day ahead of schedule and mounted it last night. A short 30mi test ride confirms that at the 60 deg angle 1in up I also have a whistle that starts at 40mph but fades into the wind noise above 50. Tomorrow I will make adjustments and see if different heights and angles change the whistle..
Thanks to all for the great advice and info.
Tilt it back some
I ordered my 11" shield last Sunday evening and it was delivered on Thursday. I rode Saturday and installed it today - easy enough install I wish I would have done it Saturday before ride. Wonderful product.
Well I put 300 mile on today and tryed all different angles and heights and almost every angle produces a whstile over 40mph.. BUT in lower positions and angled up i can get the wistle to stop. I put tape over every screw head and wrapped the knobs trying to eliminate the whistle. I even pulled the windshield off and put the fuzzy part of velcro between the shield and the brackets to fill the small gap. Nothing did the trick. I pulled the outer shield off and left the small shield and brackets mounted and went for a ride. No whistle. When the shield is in the lower position and tilted up, that must squeeze the breeze between the shield and the Fairing just enough to change something, but I am not sure what just yet.
Enough today, time to step away and think on it..
Ideas anyone ????
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Contact mark I was having a whistle and went with a 15" shield with the mounting holes lowered
1",and the whistle is gone.
When I installed my Madstad I filled the gap under the lower shield with weatherstripping; this is the gap between the lower shield and the faring on the bike. I can't say if the weatherstripping is a coincidence or a solution but I don't have any whistling.
Do you mean inside the Fairing? As if air is traveling in the Fairing vents and as the air exits around the shield it whistles. hhuummmm
I do also notice a squeak at low speeds, and I can duplicate by wiggling the windshield... Something else to look at. Thanks
I've added/removed foam from the same gap between shield/dash,,, No difference in sound.
Depending on your 'squeak', you may tighten the 'bracket to bracket' bolts and reduce/eliminate that particular noise.
I get a 'high speed wind over a screen' type of whistle at speed with the shield standing up at 60 degrees. Tilt it back and/or /tilt it back pick it up gets rid of the 'screen whistle' for me. Doesn't happen unless its upright and 'down-ish'
Early on I noticed the squeak you describe that can be duplicated by wiggling the windshield. In my case the rearward facing side of the Base Shield was contacting the Dash at a couple distinct points causing the Squeak when the Base Shield was flexed. Initially I applied Armour All to the contact surfaces allowing the two surfaces to slide against one another eliminating the Squeak.
Later I applied Frost King Rubber Foam Weatherseal 1-1/4" wide, 7/16" thick, purchased in a 10 foot roll at Lowes (#Black R516). Applied this in the gap between the Base Shield and Dash. This provided much more uniform contact surface between the Base Shield & Dash. This added contact surface also seems to stiffen the Base Shield resulting in much less flexing and no Squeaks.
I have what I would describe as a very faint Whistle at times (running with 11" shield). I can hear the Whistle only because the Madstad produces such low wind noise at the rider position. I can also hear sounds from the Engine & Tranny that I could not hear before as the result of the lower wind noise.
From the posts here it is clear the Whistle is Offensive to some and Barely Noticed by others. To me when I do notice the Whistle it's like a "Happy Little Birdie Whistling" to others it's the "Freaking Whistle That Won't Go Away". Those with an annoying Whistle might try applying the Frost King Weatherseal as I describe. It really provides the Base Shield with quite a bit more support & rigidity to eliminate flexing and might help to minimize the Whistle?
If you look back through this thread you will notice I tried about everything in the book. At a 60 degree angle there was nothing for me that got rid of the whistle. I have been running lately at about a 53 degree angle using the lower mounting position and the whistle is not present.