Bugger...

You know that feeling when you think, 'should've done it myself'?

Got the centerstand fitted the other day on the first service, yes folks 1200K's in three months :icon_redface:, not good enough I know!

So I took SWMBO out for a spin on the weekend, couple of sharper left hands I heard some faint scraping, 'odd' I thought, no ones ever mentioned centerstand scraping that early. So I stopped midway and adjusted the suspension a little harder. Seemed ok, but then I got a faint tinny noise once more that day.

Figured scraping the stand would be a harsher sound.

Got home and looked at the LH stand foot, couldn't see anything when I noticed a crink in the bend that goes around the exhaust pipe. It's a metal plate, not plastic, I believe they've had problems putting the spring on and it's caused the mech to bend the panel down as at the rear of the panel you can see where it's kissed the tar. Bent it back into place, couldn't do anything with the plate where it's bent.

Bugger...

Should've done myself... still it saves me making the first scratch I guess.

*vent mode off*


So... if you get a center stand fitted check here....

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Must've been a real pro mechanic! I would make them replace that part. FYI I did not remove squat when I installed my center stand. The only exotic tool I used was a spring hook.

Pretty easy to prove who is at fault and who should make good.

My tool was $2.75 in quarters..... done

I never let anyone touch my bike period..specially dealership learning curves:jerkit:. The way I look at it...I can screw it up for free. Nobody will take care of your stuff as good as you. The money you paid to have your bike screwed up could have bought a service manual and tools to do the job right...not to mention the knowledge and satisfaction gained by doing the job which is priceless. The damage is minor but would still drive me nuts knowing it's there.

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Originally Posted by Steve 0080

My tool was $2.75 in quarters..... done

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+1

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Originally Posted by sandragggen

I never let anyone touch my bike period..specially dealership learning curves:jerkit:. The way I look at it...I can screw it up for free. Nobody will take care of your stuff as good as you. The money you paid to have your bike screwed up could have bought a service manual and tools to do the job right...not to mention the knowledge and satisfaction gained by doing the job which is priceless. The damage is minor but would still drive me nuts knowing it's there.

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In the sport of motorcycling there are "Riders" and then there are "Rider/Wrencher's"! There is a distinct difference. The Wrencher's "man cave" contains numerous tools (SAE/METRIC) and equipment to perform most, if not all, routine and some complex repair tasks i.e. "air filter change". They exude pride in getting their hands dirty doing those things the "Riders" shun. There's nothing like holding a "cold beer" in ones oily/greasy hands after a task is complete and admiring a job well done and knowing it was done right:icon_wink: The Wrencher's first purchase, after buying his bike, is a complete "Shop Service Manual", whereas the "Rider" heads for the "Bling Isle":shock: Real Wrenchers are less worried about "swirl marks" than they are about the use of a good "torque wrench" on all fasteners:shhh: The final straw for "Wrencher's" is handing over "hard earned money" for sub-standard and, in some cases, dangerous repair work:icon_doh: Getting it done right the first time is a "Wrencher's" greatest bliss. And lastly "Wrencher's" have their "own language":icon_lol:
This post is not too offend, but to tip a hat and toast to those with mechanical skills:039:

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Originally Posted by Bryster

You know that feeling when you think, 'should've done it myself'?

Got the centerstand fitted the other day on the first service, yes folks 1200K's in three months :icon_redface:, not good enough I know!

So I took SWMBO out for a spin on the weekend, couple of sharper left hands I heard some faint scraping, 'odd' I thought, no ones ever mentioned centerstand scraping that early. So I stopped midway and adjusted the suspension a little harder. Seemed ok, but then I got a faint tinny noise once more that day.

Figured scraping the stand would be a harsher sound.

Got home and looked at the LH stand foot, couldn't see anything when I noticed a crink in the bend that goes around the exhaust pipe. It's a metal plate, not plastic, I believe they've had problems putting the spring on and it's caused the mech to bend the panel down as at the rear of the panel you can see where it's kissed the tar. Bent it back into place, couldn't do anything with the plate where it's bent.

Bugger...

Should've done myself... still it saves me making the first scratch I guess.

*vent mode off*


So... if you get a center stand fitted check here....

Attachment 15447

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I'd be on them like ugly on an ape, just don't let moron tread on you like that and let them get away with it. Your doing the next guy that want to add a centerstand a service. If they have to replace what they broke on your bike maybe they will take a little more time and do it right on the next one.
I go right back after those guys when they screw up like that. They are after all supposed to be certified mechanics and you paid them good money for their expertise.

I hear ya fellas....

If I had've seen straight away, or the next day maybe. Been almost a week. I'll sort out, but once it's outa warranty, I'm doing stuff myself. No diagnostics needed that I'm aware of for this thing.. so that's a plus!

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Originally Posted by Steve 0080

My tool was $2.75 in quarters..... done

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I dont understand this.
Please explain.

Doug

Doug , the guys that don't have a brake spring tool put a quarter in between each coil on the spring. That spaces it out far enough so you can hook the spring.

Can you use Yen?

There is a bigger issue here. If a dealer is willing to let a mechanic work on your bike and he doesn't possess the proper skills then you should let that dealer know about it. If we can't depend on a dealer to do the correct job then how can we trust his work when we are out riding? I'm tired of dealers who main concern is to sell a bike and not care about servicing it. Honda should be monitoring these dealer's service departments and the people who work in them. I would hate to think what would have happened to you if the spring on that center stand broke and launched you off of your F6B while in a turn.

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Originally Posted by shooter

Doug , the guys that don't have a brake spring tool put a quarter in between each coil on the spring. That spaces it out far enough so you can hook the spring.

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Well I'll be damned.

Doug

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Originally Posted by stroguy

Can you use Yen?

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You got a lot of yen in your area? NO! Its good old American Quarters. Dang you can be aggravating.

Bully!

Bully my azz. Heck we used to live on the same block now you're either Japanese or English. Dad always said you was a strange one.

Mother never liked you.

I knew that. She always gave me the small piece of pie.

It's obvious that therapy did not work for the two of you, L:icon_lol:L

Why did you change the oil at 1200KMS?

1st service, you know change oil/filter etc. I was 200k's late. They were good enough to do for free and fit stand also, we only have the one model over here. Unless the dealer specs up most stuff you order later. Still we get reverse and Cruise so it kinda makes up for that. Although no self cancelling indicators which is strange.

Stroguy, I used quarters for several years. My granddaughter became old enough to operate the Coke Machine. My quarters would wander off mysteriously and not return. I went to Sears Hardware and bought ten fender washers, of about the same thickness as a quarter, and the losses stopped. A big net savings.

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Originally Posted by flat6bagger

I dont understand this.
Please explain.

Doug

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Doug, I must be a cheap ass, I used nickels...


24 NICKELS !!!

I don't have a brake tool, but I put mine on a year or so ago!

I used 24 nickels,, you know 5c coins.

Nickels, a 8mm Allen head, a 10mm wrench and a 14mm open end wrench. That's it!

The new honda kit has a 8mm Allen head for the left side & a reverse thead 14 mm for the right side. It also has a 10 mm bolt that holds the spring. I laid on the right side of the bike and put it all on from that side.
I DID NOT REMOVE THE COWLING.
It was all pretty easy... It took a little while to find the hole for the spring bolt. I used a bungie cord to hold up the stand and "Helen Keller'd my finger around till I found it. No Problem. Putting on the Spring "BIG PROBLEM"... I tried the little blue washers honda sent in the kit, no way,
A screwdriver to pry it on, No Way. 24 pennies like others had done, close but NO. So I got a roll of nickels! Put one end of the spring into a hole. I used a slot in my "reloader". Bend the spring insert a nickel into every coil then flip the spring over and insert a nickel into every coil on the backside too! About 24 nickels! GUESS WHAT? It just snapped on! No tools required!
Slowly step on the newly attached center stand and all the nickels nicely just drop out
DONE! who's the man? FF-Ed!
Hope this helps

( I did lie on the left side to snap on the spring )