Top Speed Question

I surely do not mean to start a huge argument here about top speed. Just would like to hear some feedback. We are NOT talking SAFETY or SHOULD or SHOULD NOT go such speeds.

This is regarding the top speed of 112 MPH on the 2018 models

I remember that a year or two ago maybe earlier, that some of you on here put the torque loops and different exhausts on your F6B and then sent the ECM out to some guy in the Northeast to "remap" or "tune" the ECM after these changes were made. I noticed that one of the results of this "remapping" was the removal of the "Governor" or "Speed Limiter" Do any of you remember this?
If so, will this be a possibility on the 2018 models?

If anyone knows who this gentleman is and has his contact information I would be willing to call him and get some information and report back.

His name is Don Guhl, Guhl Motorsports. As far as the speed limiter goes, some people say he was able to remove it successfully, some say it didn't work on their bikes. Asking him for the scoop would be a good idea.

I will see what I can find out and report back. I will do some google work and see if I can find Contact info on him. I didnt remember his name. Thank you

I sent Don an email. If I dont hear back from him within a couple of days I will call him.

You might check with Healtech also. They have some plug & play electronics that supposedly remove the limiter on certain bikes.

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Originally Posted by RuneRider66

I sent Don an email. If I dont hear back from him within a couple of days I will call him.

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History says its better to call.... he is known for not keeping up with email. good luck.

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Originally Posted by seventwenty

You might check with Healtech also. They have some plug & play electronics that supposedly remove the limiter on certain bikes.

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Healtech has not done squat with the GL1800 platform ( as far as the limiter goes). No confidence in support from them now.

Out of curiosity, how fast can these go without the governor... at 125 im at 4k. Cant imagine them going much faster

I'd bet it has something to do with a law suite at one time or another or the fear of them.
I read the sport bikes are limited to 184 mph. Or some crazy MPH around that
8-10 years ago, I was filling up my P/U and I could see the kid at the next pump was confused. He couldn't figure out how to get the gas cap open on his brand new Honda 1000cc (about) sport bike. I showed him, then he was afraid he would "get gas on the tank & melt the paint". Brand new rider, brand new bike. == I say, "I bet this thing will fly." He said he just had it up pass 150 (something) MPH and it still had more to go. === I thought, when I was his age, I would have done the same thing if M/C's would have gone that fast.

Was at a local Honda shop for a reveal of the new 1800 and the Honda rep was asked about the 112 mph limit. His explanation was that with the smaller radiators that if you pinned the throttle and held it, the bike would over heat,so with the 112 mph limit it won’t over heat.

For practicality purposes; up to 112 mph is plenty fast for a Goldwing. There's no point in keeping a sustained 112+ mph on one...

Maybe in Maryland you don’t have a place to run. Get out west and it’s a whole different animal.

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Originally Posted by Sorcerer

Maybe in Maryland you don’t have a place to run. Get out west and it’s a whole different animal.

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I dunno... riding above 112+ miles per hour even on some vast stretches of the west wouldn't seem to be very enjoyable/tolerable on a lengthy basis. For bike and/or rider.

Maybe I'm just getting old... :motorcycle2:

No need to run above 112 for a lengthy basis to enjoy the thrill of speeds higher than that. I've had this B up to top end a couple of times and it is smooth as silk, the limiter kicks in softly to stop your climb and the whole thing did not feel dangerous at all. If the bike is capable and it is safe enough and you want to accept the risk no one should tell you that you can't do it or decide for you what is reasonable. Grandma thinks 55 is the right top end speed, glad she is not the head of the speed limiter dept.

I have a 13 and I've been able to keep the bike at 123-125 until the limiter kicks in. Maybe my bike had the mod done already and I didn't know?

That is what the pre 2018s will do.

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Originally Posted by Craig_328

I have a 13 and I've been able to keep the bike at 123-125 until the limiter kicks in. Maybe my bike had the mod done already and I didn't know?

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112 is what the new wing is limited to. The previous generation is about 123.

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Originally Posted by Sorcerer

Was at a local Honda shop for a reveal of the new 1800 and the Honda rep was asked about the 112 mph limit. His explanation was that with the smaller radiators that if you pinned the throttle and held it, the bike would over heat,so with the 112 mph limit it won’t over heat.

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Hmmm. what?

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Originally Posted by Craig_328

Hmmm. what?

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My guess is that being 80-90 lbs lighter with more hp and torque, less wind drag than previous 1800s the new 1833 Wing would have out run, may be run circles around our old out dated 1800s. Some where after the 01 Wing Honda changed to larger radiator and fans. Honda it seems may have repeated the same first year model foe paws again.
Edit:The new Wings fans now blow out the sides rather than forward out the front as the old 1800s did.

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Originally Posted by olegoat345

I'd bet it has something to do with a law suite at one time or another or the fear of them.
I read the sport bikes are limited to 184 mph. Or some crazy MPH around that
8-10 years ago, I was filling up my P/U and I could see the kid at the next pump was confused. He couldn't figure out how to get the gas cap open on his brand new Honda 1000cc (about) sport bike. I showed him, then he was afraid he would "get gas on the tank & melt the paint". Brand new rider, brand new bike. == I say, "I bet this thing will fly." He said he just had it up pass 150 (something) MPH and it still had more to go. === I thought, when I was his age, I would have done the same thing if M/C's would have gone that fast.

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I had a 10' CBR 600, at 150 it was pretty scary: smashed face into the tank with so much wind that if you moved it would pry your body off the bike and you also tunnel vision. That being said, the distance that you actually went that fast was not very far. Now I enjoy passing sport bikes and maintaining speed for a prolonged distance, in comfort, with music playing, legs on the highway bars...and watching them scrunched down staying out of the wind

Land of the Free? You guys have speed limiters on your bikes. The European and Canadian bikes don't have them. I've had my 2013 up to 240 km/h ( on a closed course). That's 149 in miles. Maybe that's why we get ABS on our bikes? Not sure about the 2018s. Another member stated they were limited to preserve the engines from overheating. My Honda wrench stated that the only bikes in Honda's line up with the limiters are the scooters. He's not seen the 2018 at his shop yet.

Most vehicles get there speed limiters set based on tires. I think this is the case for the F6B also. The OEM tires on our F6B are H-rated (130mph). Most engineers and their lawyers wont push them to 100% of their rating. Take a few % off and set it a 125.

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Originally Posted by 2wheelsforme

That is what the pre 2018s will do.

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What screen am I looking at here? All this data is very interesting. Is it a device you plug into the diagnostic port?

Looks like my Garmin GPS readout.

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Originally Posted by Circle-5

What screen am I looking at here? All this data is very interesting. Is it a device you plug into the diagnostic port?

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One of the screens to be seen on a Zumo 590. Other things like altitude, fuel range and ambient temp. are also available.

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Originally Posted by Sorcerer

Some where after the 01 Wing Honda changed to larger radiator and fans. Honda it seems may have repeated the same first year model foe paws again.
Edit:The new Wings fans now blow out the sides rather than forward out the front as the old 1800s did.

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The 2001 - 2005 GL1800's had the small radiators. It was discovered that when ridden at "Parade" speed ( somewhere between 15-20 miles per hour) the fans would not kick in and the bikes would overheat, once you went past 20mph, you had enough airflow to cool down the radiators. The fans only kicked in below 15mph and Honda purposely designed them to blow the heat over the front wheel and not back towards the rider.

The fans only kick in at low speeds, the natural air flow above 20mph is what cools the radiators NOT the fans and when riding above 20mph, there's enough airflow that the heat is not over bearing for the rider. :cheers:

I group ride a lot. Occasionally on hot days I will find myself behind a rider I my not be entirely fond of while in stop and go traffic. I’ll pull up tight behind them. When the fans come on, you can tell they are trying to figure out where the heat blast is coming from.��