Which Bluetooth option the best?

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08-07-2019, 08:28 AM
Macs_F6B

Which Bluetooth option the best?
So which is better blutooth solution:
A) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAh5tGnJXDI
35$: https://electricalconnection.com/ind...bluetooth-aux/
Would also add I think this: https://electricalconnection.com/ind...audio-devices/
$25
Total $60
For above option i'm not sure its going to be loud enough based on what they guy in option B below says.....

Is this one going to do what this guy says here:
B) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTlof-fr1w8
4 items total cost of: $60 :
- bluetooth adapter
- AMP
- ground loop noise isolator
- Maxboost car charger
For above option there is no way to also plug in your phone to usb because the amp and bluetooth device take both ports. Plus all that stuff will make my glove box kinda useless for stuff'''???

ALSO.. If you run either one of these what do you do if you want to press your AUX button and have the music stored on your USB drive attached in the left saddle bag to work?

Thanks for your advice in advance!

-Mac
08-07-2019, 08:58 AM
dustytrader

Interesting videos. I'll be following to see which way is best for users on this forum before I buy one.
08-07-2019, 10:32 AM
SeaSteve

To be clear...Both options give you a Bluetooth "INPUT" into the Goldwings existing audio system and speakers using the AUX 3.5 audio connector in the glovebox.

The "Block Diagram" description is...A Bluetooth enabled phone will send an audio stream to the Bluetooth enabled receiver in both options A & B. The Bluetooth receiver then sends the audio through the connected AUX 3.5 audio connector to the Goldwing audio system to be played through the speakers or connected headset.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macs_F6B

So which is better blutooth solution:
A)... For above option i'm not sure its going to be loud enough based on what they guy in option B below says.....

I'm gonna say option a will be the same or lower in volume than just plugging your phone in on the 3.5 AUX plug. The Electrical Connection Bluetooth Receiver shouldn't amplify, just create a wireless Bluetooth connection on the AUX 3.5 audio input.

The Neoteck will amplify the audio signal coming out of the Bluetooth receiver, BEFORE the audio is sent to the AUX 3.5 audio connector, then on the Goldwing audio system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macs_F6B

Is this one going to do what this guy says here:
B)... For above option there is no way to also plug in your phone to usb because the amp and bluetooth device take both ports. Plus all that stuff will make my glove box kinda useless for stuff'''???

You could just COMBINE both A & B options into one and test it in steps. The USB Bluetooth adapter in option B "COULD" be replaced by the Electrical Connection Bluetooth Receiver, which allows you to easily move it BELOW the left side pocket and opens up a USB power connector. Get the Electrical Connection Bluetooth Receiver to start with and see how loud it is. Then purchase the Neoteck AMP if you need more volume. My electronic experience tells me the AMP may overdrive the aux 3.5 input and be more of a problem in the long run. I Do recommend leaving the AMP accessible in the left pocket so you can adjust the Volume knob if your phones MP3 streaming is louder than Internet radio streaming.

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Originally Posted by Macs_F6B

ALSO.. If you run either one of these what do you do if you want to press your AUX button and have the music stored on your USB drive attached in the left saddle bag to work?

You will be able to change to FM1, FM2, AM, and USB just like always.
08-07-2019, 10:36 AM
SeaSteve

If anyone finds a simple Bluetooth TRANSMITTER that can be connected to the headset wire/connector, please let me know. I'm okay with leaving my phone plugged into the AUX 3.5 audio INPUT plug but would like to Bluetooth the OUTPUT to my helmet speaker system.

I should get the louder J&M Speakers in the mail this Friday, and installed Saturday, so I can hear music above 65MPH.
08-07-2019, 12:23 PM
2wheelsforme

Just for info. If you are planning on adding a GPS unit soon be aware that some units have Bluetooth built in.
08-07-2019, 11:34 PM
Switchmonkey

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I’ve got a Bluetooth receiver/transmitter plugged into the DIN jack. I use it so I can control everything from the bike controls and send it to my Sena 20S. TAO Tronics. It works great! I bought something from electrical connections thinking it would do the same but it is only a receiver. I cut the wiring and power the Tao tronics one using the connectors from the other one. It is always powered when bike key is on.
08-08-2019, 08:41 AM
billsim

I plug a bluetooth receiver ($8.00) into the saddlebag USB. I put my Iphone in the left front cubbyhole with Pandora playing on the phone thru bluetooth. Using the AUX setting on the radio I can use the handlebar volume and skip switches on the handlebars.
Here is the USB Bluetooth Receiver that I use.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SATN9J2/ref=dp_prsubs_1

They get their power from the USB plug in the saddlebag.
I can also charge the phone in the front cubby while still using bluetooth for tunes.

Has been working for years now
08-09-2019, 05:05 PM
shortleg0521

Mine is a hbit pricy,
I use a sena 20s and a Sena sm 10 bluetooth trasmitter.
The sena sm10 has my headset jack and GPS plugged into it.
This allows me to hear music annd the GPS cuts out music and gives directions.
Also can make and receive phone calls.
08-09-2019, 05:31 PM
StoichSix

I went with electical connections for mine. It works fine, no issues with it so far.
08-10-2019, 07:11 AM
Ghost Rider

I tried a cheap Best Buy blue tooth transmitter for a basic single signal it worked but not well. I went with a sena 20 and a freewire. I am very pleased with it. You can use both sides of your aux imput, am, fm, phone, gps on phone, i also have a zumo, satelite radio, plus wireless intercom with my wife on her bike. Yes a sena system cost a little more but it is best thing i have ever had a bike.
08-10-2019, 07:48 PM
shortleg0521

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSteve

If anyone finds a simple Bluetooth TRANSMITTER that can be connected to the headset wire/connector, please let me know. I'm okay with leaving my phone plugged into the AUX 3.5 audio INPUT plug but would like to Bluetooth the OUTPUT to my helmet speaker system.

I should get the louder J&M Speakers in the mail this Friday, and installed Saturday, so I can hear music above 65MPH.

All you need is an adapter that is 5 pin din on one end and 3.5 on the other.
Can be had for 10 to 15 bucks for a good one.
Then any Bluetooth transmitter will work.
08-13-2019, 05:40 PM
Macs_F6B

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2wheelsforme

Just for info. If you are planning on adding a GPS unit soon be aware that some units have Bluetooth built in.

Thanks for the input.

So i'm thinking maybe of getting a Zumo GPS.

How exactly could this affect my decision here? What factors do i need to consider?

Thanks again!
-Mac
08-16-2019, 10:53 AM
shortleg0521

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSteve

If anyone finds a simple Bluetooth TRANSMITTER that can be connected to the headset wire/connector, please let me know. I'm okay with leaving my phone plugged into the AUX 3.5 audio INPUT plug but would like to Bluetooth the OUTPUT to my helmet speaker system.

I should get the louder J&M Speakers in the mail this Friday, and installed Saturday, so I can hear music above 65MPH.

If you just want a good transmitter I use a sena sm 10.
IT NEEDS AN ADAPTER THAT GOES FROM 5 PIN DIN TO 3.5
It has two 3.5 plugs one for the headset jack and the other can be used for a gps that has a 3.5
Plug. If used it will over ride the music and give directions.
Have used one for quite a while and its worked great.
08-16-2019, 04:35 PM
olegoat345

"nothing at all" is the best option
08-16-2019, 08:36 PM
shortleg0521

Just look at what you want going on in your helmet.
When on a l9ng trip I enjoy listening to all kinds of music and even the news.
Sso I use XM radio in the left cubby and thumb drive in bag transmitted to
my Sena 20s headset by way of a sena sm 10.
Some of here don't listen to anything but the wind..
All in whatt you want.
08-19-2019, 12:17 PM
SeaSteve

I'm still watching these posts and thanks for your inputs Shortleg521.

I did find some DIN pin outs on another site, DIY Goldwing Headsets if anyone is interested and for future reference.

Din Plug Pin Connected to
1 Microphone Screening (-)
4 Microphone Live (+) (via Capacitor)
2 Earphones Screening (-) on Both Left and Right
5 Earphone Left (+)
3 Earphone Right (-)

EDIT...And then later in the same site it "changes" to this:

Din Plug Pin Connected to
1 Microphone Screening (-)
2 Microphone Live (+) (via Capacitor)
3 Earphones Screening (-) on Both Left and Right
4 Earphone RIGHT (+)
5 Earphone LEFT (+)

And finally, I find this statement..."If you look at the back of a 5 pin din plug the pins are numbered 1,4,2,5,3, not 1,2,3,4,5. this is where a lot of confusion is made when connections are made. 1 being mic+, 4 is mic ground, 2 is speaker common, 3 and 5 are right and left channels. Here is a link to plug image."
08-19-2019, 05:04 PM
shortleg0521

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaSteve

I'm still watching these posts and thanks for your inputs Shortleg521.

I did find some DIN pin outs on another site, DIY Goldwing Headsets if anyone is interested and for future reference.

Din Plug Pin Connected to
1 Microphone Screening (-)
4 Microphone Live (+) (via Capacitor)
2 Earphones Screening (-) on Both Left and Right
5 Earphone Left (+)
3 Earphone Right (-)

EDIT...And then later in the same site it "changes" to this:

Din Plug Pin Connected to
1 Microphone Screening (-)
2 Microphone Live (+) (via Capacitor)
3 Earphones Screening (-) on Both Left and Right
4 Earphone RIGHT (+)
5 Earphone LEFT (+)

And finally, I find this statement..."If you look at the back of a 5 pin din plug the pins are numbered 1,4,2,5,3, not 1,2,3,4,5. this is where a lot of confusion is made when connections are made. 1 being mic+, 4 is mic ground, 2 is speaker common, 3 and 5 are right and left channels. Here is a link to plug image."

What are you looking to do,have you figured out yet.
You can but any din jack already made up so its plug and play.
03-31-2022, 12:33 PM
SeaSteve

I just got my hands on "used" Sena Freewire so I'm resurrecting this thread.

I've also bought the new Scorpion EXO-GT930 Transformer modular helmet with the UClear Bluetooth system installed.(Actually had to get it separately and install myself.)

I can't seem to get a workable connection between the two. I can get both units lights to tell me the "pairing" was completed but I cant get any audio from the F6B audio system (set to headset) to play in the helmet headset.

I've paired the EXO-Com headset to my Android phone and it works fine, which is my work around for now.
03-31-2022, 08:22 PM
tenxxx

"nothing at all" is the best option"

Amen Brother.
04-04-2022, 07:15 AM
terryboyle

SeaSteve Before you lose your mind trying to get it sorted out, make sure that both devices have the most current firmware update.
04-04-2022, 08:26 AM
SeaSteve

Thanks, but I did that first thing out of the boxes.
04-19-2022, 11:51 AM
SeaSteve

Here's my final post on this subject:

I followed the advice on page one and bought a "Cheap Chinese" $40 Bluetooth transmitter and a $24 adapter to connect the 3.5 input to the 5 pin headset plug AND a $13 ground loop noise filter and it all just works.

Anyone want to pay too much for a Sena Freewire????
05-10-2022, 11:43 AM
Harrisiv

How much do you want for it shipped to 78373?
05-10-2022, 04:43 PM
SeaSteve

Sorry, I just sold it last week to another user.