Traxxion "Mega-Monty"

[F6B1911]

You can feel the difference just riding in a tight circle. At the Rally, I will let people ride her around if I deem them competent and they want to feel the difference. But on the Tail...hmmm. Might require that significant deposit you mentioned.... Cheers, Steve

What could possibly happen in a mere 11 miles?

[Audiochris90]

Ive seen traxxions old goldwing presentation on YouTube. Very convincing. Are there any criticisms of the set up? Is the ride quality less plush? Does it soak up bumps?

[53driver]

Ive seen traxxions old goldwing presentation on YouTube. Very convincing. Are there any criticisms of the set up? Is the ride quality less plush? Does it soak up bumps?

Criticisms? - No. I honestly haven't tested the limits of the envelope and I just don't know what I don't know yet.

Less plush? - Not sure as my parameters were changed.
- Traxxion considers the tires the "first part" of the suspension and their recommended pressure is 34/38
- I haven't seen where the rear suspension preload is set yet. it's allegedly set for my 210lb butt and 15 pounds of gear.
- It did absorb bumps and railroad tracks effortlessly.
- The tires do move less (see GoPro bit in first thread) so I imagine that the suspension is staying more in its optimum operable range, rather than finding the extremes.

Soak up bumps? - I wouldn't say that, you still feel them, but I would definitely hypothesize that I'm feeling a lot less

Testing concepts:
- I'm going to ad a few psi's to the tires and see what that does to the ride. 36/40.
- I'm going to see where the rear preload is set and stiffen that a bit
- Calling Traxxion to ask if the Trax Triple Tree altered the rake/trail any.

Recommendations for anyone:
- put the All Balls tapered bearings in the steering column. Just do it.
- stiffen the fork play. Get a SuperBrace, the Traxxion Brace, Helibars, whatever you can do to lessen the flex between the tubes
- realize that the most under engineered part of this bike is the front suspension and then do something about it if you are interested in spirited riding. (If not, put a CT on the back and call it good. )

Cheers,
Steve

[53driver]

What could possibly happen in a mere 11 miles?

It's the 318 curves that have my attention.....

[tiltingf6b]

Well, I done did it.
I was heading to NW Georgia for a ride with the "boys" and Traxxion (Woodstock, GA) had a Friday afternoon appointment open....

Sweet Mother-of-Pearl!
What a difference in handling from the stock suspension!
And the bike tracks perfectly straight hands off at any speed.
The steering column is SO smooth and SO effortless now.
- Those tapered "All Balls" bearings are smooth as a baby's butt.
The setup shines over railroad tracks and speedbumps. No slowing anymore.
Their version of a Fork Brace applies the forces to the forks lower than my SuperBrace did and doesn't destroy the trailing edge of my front fender at the same time. (grrrrr)
Between that brace and their Triple Tree, there is NO flex in the steering column.
Of course, when we took to the mountains in NW Georgia, the package really did shine beyond my expectations.
The suspension keeps the tires on the road. Period. No questions.
As many of you know I have a GoPro on my left engine guard and I'm used to watching the tire move up and down "a certain amount" in my videos. Now? Tire doesn't move nearly a third as much. It's amazing.
Lots of confidence in the bike and the feedback she's giving me in "very-spirited" riding conditions.

Yeah, it was 3 'large' but "buy once, cry once" is my motto for major purchases.
Plus they have a "Gold Wing 90 days same as cash" deal, so I spread out the damage a bit....
And Traxxion did the work.
They didn't wash & wax her, but they fixed a few nickle and dime things for me

Two of my riding partners (Full Wingers) went for a quick ride and came back all smiles.
One has an appointment in late March...

Cheers,
Steve
(and yeah, I'm grinning big time!!!)

Mega-Monty is:
AK-20 Axxion Cartridge Kit
Traxxion Dynamics “Omni” Fork Spring Kit
Traxx-Rite Billet Triple Clamp (the "Full Monty" doesn't include this)
Fork Brace with Bug Guards
"All Balls” Brand Tapered Roller Steering Head Bearings
Rebound Adjustable Fork Caps
Fork Seals
Inner and Outer Fork Bushings as required
Traxxion Dynamics’ Rear Shock Absorber and Spring Kit
Traxxion Dynamics’ Braided Stainless Steel Shock Hose
Labor to Remove and Install Front Forks
Labor to Rebuild Forks and Install Fork Kit
Labor to Remove Shock, Rebuild Remote Adjuster, Install Hose, and Reinstall
Labor to Remove and Install Steering Bearings

Man oh man - I would love to take a spin on your baby girl - seems like she's all grown up!

[Redlinez]

Wow, congrats! Other than the seat and windshield, the suspension is definitely my number one gripe. Sounds like that's a great remedy, just too much for my blood.

[53driver]

Wow, congrats! Other than the seat and windshield, the suspension is definitely my number one gripe. Sounds like that's a great remedy, just too much for my blood.

It's a lot of coin - no question there. I'm fortunate that I can make this work, hopefully without the little missus finding out!

There are "less expensive" options:
JimmyT wrote on a different thread about the Progressive cartridges; the dude on the Yellow Wing that was at the hotel same as our Rally in Arkansas - that seemingly makes a living tearing up roads - has had both the Traxxion and the Progressives and he preferred the Progressives, so that's what JimmyT got.
Waiting on Jimmy to install those bad boys and then we're going to go play....

As I wrote, for anyone, at a minimum, do the All Balls tapered bearings and some sort of fork bracing system.

Cheers,
Steve

[Jimmytee]

It's a lot of coin - no question there. I'm fortunate that I can make this work, hopefully without the little missus finding out!

There are "less expensive" options:
JimmyT wrote on a different thread about the Progressive cartridges; the dude on the Yellow Wing that was at the hotel same as our Rally in Arkansas - that seemingly makes a living tearing up roads - has had both the Traxxion and the Progressives and he preferred the Progressives, so that's what JimmyT got.
Waiting on Jimmy to install those bad boys and then we're going to go play....

As I wrote, for anyone, at a minimum, do the All Balls tapered bearings and some sort of fork bracing system.

Cheers,
Steve

Just to be clear, he didn't really say he preferred the Progressive route. As in ,he wasn't making a statement that one was better overall than the other. What he said when I asked his opinion, was that for the money he would just install the Progressive Monotubes, change head bearings, and install a Progressive spring on the OEM shock. That was based upon his experience. I am tearing into my front end this week. Would've already, but other stuff keeps coming up.

I'll add that I am doing the work myself,which isn't an option with the Traxxion upgrade. So you have to figure installation cost into the equation if you are not doing the work yourself. When you do this, the cost differences ,I'M sure would diminish

[53driver]

Just to be clear, he didn't really say he preferred the Progressive route. As in ,he wasn't making a statement that one was better overall than the other. What he said when I asked his opinion, was that for the money he would just install the Progressive Monotubes, change head bearings, and install a Progressive spring on the OEM shock. That was based upon his experience. I am tearing into my front end this week. Would've already, but other stuff keeps coming up.

I'll add that I am doing the work myself,which isn't an option with the Traxxion upgrade. So you have to figure installation cost into the equation if you are not doing the work yourself. When you do this, the cost differences ,I'M sure would diminish

Thanks for clarifying JimmyT.
I know I don't like to be misquoted and I'm sure he doesn't like it either.
Best of luck with the install!

$$$ breakdown for Mega-Monty:
Labor was $500
Triple clamp: $500
Fork Brace kit: $300
Two Cartridges: $1000
Cartridge Install Kit: $200
Rear Shock: $575
Bushings/Seals: $65
Package discount of $154

I thought you could buy any of those parts from Traxxion or their reps - you don't have to have them do the work.
I'm not as talented as JimmyT though.
Would have spent well beyond 5 hours doing
I value my time at $100/hr so it was an easy decision for me.

Cheers,
Steve

[seadog]

Well, I done did it.
I was heading to NW Georgia for a ride with the "boys" and Traxxion (Woodstock, GA) had a Friday afternoon appointment open....

Sweet Mother-of-Pearl!
What a difference in handling from the stock suspension!
And the bike tracks perfectly straight hands off at any speed.
The steering column is SO smooth and SO effortless now.
- Those tapered "All Balls" bearings are smooth as a baby's butt.
The setup shines over railroad tracks and speedbumps. No slowing anymore.
Their version of a Fork Brace applies the forces to the forks lower than my SuperBrace did and doesn't destroy the trailing edge of my front fender at the same time. (grrrrr)
Between that brace and their Triple Tree, there is NO flex in the steering column.
Of course, when we took to the mountains in NW Georgia, the package really did shine beyond my expectations.
The suspension keeps the tires on the road. Period. No questions.
As many of you know I have a GoPro on my left engine guard and I'm used to watching the tire move up and down "a certain amount" in my videos. Now? Tire doesn't move nearly a third as much. It's amazing.
Lots of confidence in the bike and the feedback she's giving me in "very-spirited" riding conditions.

Yeah, it was 3 'large' but "buy once, cry once" is my motto for major purchases.
Plus they have a "Gold Wing 90 days same as cash" deal, so I spread out the damage a bit....
And Traxxion did the work.
They didn't wash & wax her, but they fixed a few nickle and dime things for me

Two of my riding partners (Full Wingers) went for a quick ride and came back all smiles.
One has an appointment in late March...

Cheers,
Steve
(and yeah, I'm grinning big time!!!)

Mega-Monty is:
AK-20 Axxion Cartridge Kit
Traxxion Dynamics “Omni” Fork Spring Kit
Traxx-Rite Billet Triple Clamp (the "Full Monty" doesn't include this)
Fork Brace with Bug Guards
"All Balls” Brand Tapered Roller Steering Head Bearings
Rebound Adjustable Fork Caps
Fork Seals
Inner and Outer Fork Bushings as required
Traxxion Dynamics’ Rear Shock Absorber and Spring Kit
Traxxion Dynamics’ Braided Stainless Steel Shock Hose
Labor to Remove and Install Front Forks
Labor to Rebuild Forks and Install Fork Kit
Labor to Remove Shock, Rebuild Remote Adjuster, Install Hose, and Reinstall
Labor to Remove and Install Steering Bearings

I'm glad someone has big bucks to throw at their bike, us poor guys will just have to keep on keepin on with our 250 dirt bike springs and our rotten anti- dive setup. It would be nice to do that but I'm just looking at putting fresh oil in the forks in the spring and that will be enough I hope!