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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    That happens to be very similar color to Lamborghini pearl Green ... a gorgeous paint color on 6 figure cars.

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    You owe Big Larry an apology.
    You realize we posted at the exact same time....spooky but you are correct about an apology. You have to watch those guys that live in a low crime white neighborhood they see a large man in Birckenstocks and think right away he doesn't belong in this forum only to find out he lives here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxfree4 View Post
    I said "First of all you are required to carry and show ID when asked by an officer."
    He says "As far as I know you're only required to identify yourself when asked."

    Can someone from alpha crypto translations tell me the difference in these two statements, anyway:

    New York is a "Stop and ID" state which allows exactly that if the police think a crime has/is/about to be committed - translation - "We've had some reports about robberies in the area do you live around here? Can I see some ID." If I had a dollar every time I've heard that so I say "No problem officer here you go." A little run through the NCIC for any outstanding warrants and a "Thank you for your cooperation." That's the price you pay for living in a, as dadeo says, "low crime white neighborhood." and I'm OK with that because my family left the inner city years ago.
    The difference is I'm not required to have ID on me. If a uniformed officer asks me to identify myself and I give him my name but don't have my ID on me he may or may not have an issue with that. He could very well want to follow me home to get my ID to prove who I am, but I'm not required to carry ID with me while walking my dog. Now if I'm doing any number of other things such as driving or hunting etc...I am required to have ID on me.
    I'm not from New York so I guess I'd have issues there if they require you carry ID at all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Chief View Post
    The difference is I'm not required to have ID on me. If a uniformed officer asks me to identify myself and I give him my name but don't have my ID on me he may or may not have an issue with that. He could very well want to follow me home to get my ID to prove who I am, but I'm not required to carry ID with me while walking my dog. Now if I'm doing any number of other things such as driving or hunting etc...I am required to have ID on me.
    I'm not from New York so I guess I'd have issues there if they require you carry ID at all times.
    Yea, I know it sucks but all you are doing is verifying who you are. Not a big deal to me. Other folks make it a big deal. Not sure why. It's stupid to make a Capital case out of it while on the street; a cop has actually plenty of leeway (sometimes unprofessionally) to develop probable cause and detain you. Then your day and/or night gets worse.

    Show ID and be polite.

    Been there. Done it. On both types of approaches by LEO's....


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    Quote Originally Posted by willtill View Post
    Yea, I know it sucks but all you are doing is verifying who you are. Not a big deal to me. Other folks make it a big deal. Not sure why. It's stupid to make a Capital case out of it while on the street; a cop has actually plenty of leeway (sometimes unprofessionally) to develop probable cause and detain you. Then your day and/or night gets worse.

    Show ID and be polite.

    Been there. Done it. On both types of approaches by LEO's....
    I guess I just don't understand living somewhere where you can be accosted by cops for walking and even more trouble for not having ID on you. I know for some it's a daily thing but it's truly not the way this country is suppose to be. I must have too rural of a mind set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Chief View Post
    The difference is I'm not required to have ID on me. If a uniformed officer asks me to identify myself and I give him my name but don't have my ID on me he may or may not have an issue with that. He could very well want to follow me home to get my ID to prove who I am, but I'm not required to carry ID with me while walking my dog. Now if I'm doing any number of other things such as driving or hunting etc...I am required to have ID on me.
    I'm not from New York so I guess I'd have issues there if they require you carry ID at all times.
    Again your ignorance is blaring, if you are issued a state ID then you are required to have it on you. A cop doesn't have the time to follow you home (hysterical). You'd better learn who you are and what you are. As a resident (res- meaning property ident- identifying) of the Peoples Republic of Washington State it would be wise to identify the property when the LEO asks you for it. Telling him who you are is heresay and you would lose every time in court after they drag your ass in, rightly so. You are property of the state since your birth, you are walking on the state's property and if an agent of the state, a cop, asks you to identify yourself it would be wise to do it. If you do walk your dog and are asked to produce ID please film it as I want to see the cop walk you home to get it or don't you carry your phone on you either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dadeo View Post
    I can't say which is fuglier, the rider or the bike, with its glowing puke green tank!
    (turn that GD tank down!)
    The ONLY FUGLY part is your post which exposes your hypocrisy and TRUE colors of discrimination towards someone that doesn't look like you. Your ignorant comment towards a great friend of mine and THOUSANDS of riders in the Honda community from VTX's, Runes and now F6B's is not amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxfree4 View Post
    You realize we posted at the exact same time....spooky but you are correct about an apology. You have to watch those guys that live in a low crime white neighborhood they see a large man in Birckenstocks and think right away he doesn't belong in this forum only to find out he lives here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxfree4 View Post
    Again your ignorance is blaring, if you are issued a state ID then you are required to have it on you. A cop doesn't have the time to follow you home (hysterical). You'd better learn who you are and what you are. As a resident (res- meaning property ident- identifying) of the Peoples Republic of Washington State it would be wise to identify the property when the LEO asks you for it. Telling him who you are is heresay and you would lose every time in court after they drag your ass in, rightly so. You are property of the state since your birth, you are walking on the state's property and if an agent of the state, a cop, asks you to identify yourself it would be wise to do it. If you do walk your dog and are asked to produce ID please film it as I want to see the cop walk you home to get it or don't you carry your phone on you either.
    I may very well be ignorant of some nuance of the law, but then again if I'm minding my own business and walking my dog in the vicinity of my home the LEO in question would have no probable cause to stop me. In my state at least, to my knowledge. I've done a great many things without having my ID and I've had interactions with LEO's and it's never been an issue. Like others have said be polite, respectful but mostly be honest. If there truly is an issue the LEO in question may very well detain me until my identity can be verified. It's never happened to me, however we know it's happened to many others. Either way my ignorance of the nuances surrounding laws governing whether or not I must carry ID at all times pales in comparison to your arrogance in assuming that the statutes governing those laws are the same from municipality to municipality. And no, it's 50/50 whether or not I'd have my phone on me however it wouldn't matter as I don't have a camera on my phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Chief View Post
    I may very well be ignorant of some nuance of the law, but then again if I'm minding my own business and walking my dog in the vicinity of my home the LEO in question would have no probable cause to stop me. In my state at least, to my knowledge. I've done a great many things without having my ID and I've had interactions with LEO's and it's never been an issue. Like others have said be polite, respectful but mostly be honest. If there truly is an issue the LEO in question may very well detain me until my identity can be verified. It's never happened to me, however we know it's happened to many others. Either way my ignorance of the nuances surrounding laws governing whether or not I must carry ID at all times pales in comparison to your arrogance in assuming that the statutes governing those laws are the same from municipality to municipality. And no, it's 50/50 whether or not I'd have my phone on me however it wouldn't matter as I don't have a camera on my phone.
    Ignorance of the law is never a defense nor an excuse. How else is the officer going to know if you are in the vicinity of your home if he can't identify where you live? He's going to take your word for it? You answered your own question.
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    Larry is one of the most intelligent guys on this forum and happens to be one of our moderators, I'll take Larry on my team any day.
    Larry has more ladies chasing him then most will ever know. From what I hear the ladies like the fact that he's 6'8" and everything else apparently is proportionate.
    Plus he can lick his eyebrows.

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