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    2018 Goldwing, F6B - Hp, Weights and Dimensions

    I'm starting a new thread because this info didn't seem to be noticed on the old thread. Here it is. Time to digest some numbers:

    https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...ils_infomation
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98valk View Post
    I'm starting a new thread because this info didn't seem to be noticed on the old thread. Here it is. Time to digest some numbers:

    https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...ils_infomation
    What does the weight of the F6B come in at when converted to lbs. from kgs??..No comments noticed about seat height on either models also an issue for me....I guess we just wait and see..Regards

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    One kg = 2.2 lbs so new B would weigh 803 lbs.

    According to this article, wheelbase is now 1/5 inch longer and overall length is 5.2 inches shorter.

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    Also according to the article , the engine is 1 cc larger with a modest increase in power. If correct , I guess ok. Was hoping for more though. Closer to the BMW numbers.
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    Mentions zero about the possible 7 speed and reverse for the B

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    Also according to the article , the engine is 1 cc larger with a modest increase in power. If correct , I guess ok. Was hoping for more though. Closer to the BMW numbers.
    Yeah, I was hoping for a 20% increase in power. Being lighter will help a bit.

    It's nice that Standard or DCT may be available on both the F6B and the full Wing.

    More info, more info! I'm not good at waiting ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walcrow View Post
    Mentions zero about the possible 7 speed and reverse for the B
    Well the article doesn't go into the technical specs of the transmission, but the rumor that preceded the pics with the "select group" who got to do a secret ride, said that the DCT was 7 spd and the manual will be a 6 spd. The reverse is supposed to be a real reverse gear, using the motor not the starter. It would seem it would be a bit more involved to offer a bike without such an option so I am going to assume that the B will ave the reverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walcrow View Post
    One kg = 2.2 lbs so new B would weigh 803 lbs.

    According to this article, wheelbase is now 1/5 inch longer and overall length is 5.2 inches shorter.
    5" shorter seemed like a lot. But, I just measured and there is 12" from our rear wheel to the end of the fender. Wouldn't take much to trim off 5" of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walcrow View Post
    Mentions zero about the possible 7 speed and reverse for the B
    Here you go. "There are also GL1800D and GL1800BD models, each with Honda’s DCT semi-automatic transmission."

    No reverse mentioned on either model. I bet that they are on both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    Well the article doesn't go into the technical specs of the transmission, but the rumor that preceded the pics with the "select group" who got to do a secret ride, said that the DCT was 7 spd and the manual will be a 6 spd. The reverse is supposed to be a real reverse gear, using the motor not the starter. It would seem it would be a bit more involved to offer a bike without such an option so I am going to assume that the B will ave the reverse.
    Oops, you beat me to it. And good point about the reverse being a gear.

    Back to the removable trunk. The weight difference between the B and the Wing is only 40lbs now (used to be 80). With the looks of the seat, I am still hoping the trunk is removable.

    Maybe there won't really be an F6B, just a trunkless Wing (with or without DCT)?

    Anyone see any badging on the pics to show a difference from the F6B vs the Wing?
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    I'd have thought a bigger increase in power would be warranted but I'm sure it might affect the reliability that we all like. It will still be quicker than what we have with the weight loss.

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    Each manufacturer that has a full dresser touring model seems to be marketing an accompanying bagger model with it...BMW, Yamaha, and Honda continuing what they started, and hopefully fixed, with their duo.

    Every single person I have talked to, and admittedly this is not a large number, who has considered the F6B and went in another direction all have the same reason: no cruise (13-14) and no ABS.

    Man, I hope Honda learned from these omissions....though, I notice there are surprising number of features missing from the Star Eluder that are on the TC Touring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98valk View Post
    Yeah, I was hoping for a 20% increase in power. Being lighter will help a bit.

    It's nice that Standard or DCT may be available on both the F6B and the full Wing.

    More info, more info! I'm not good at waiting ...
    Using the current 105 hp at the rear wheel and new curb weight being about 100 lbs lighter, that's roughly a 9% increase in power to weight ratio (on the full Wing).
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    The article really was just speculating on the engine performance. We should know the truth in a couple weeks. Other info from another site had claimed the new engines are fed by 6 independent electronic throttles instead of the 2 barrel throttlebody of today;s bike. Also the "secret test ride group" reported more power and torque. Said that any specific engine specs were being held secret. We may be in for a surprise. just saying. At least that's how I'm going to think about it until I learn differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VStarRider View Post
    Each manufacturer that has a full dresser touring model seems to be marketing an accompanying bagger model with it...BMW, Yamaha, and Honda continuing what they started, and hopefully fixed, with their duo.

    Every single person I have talked to, and admittedly this is not a large number, who has considered the F6B and went in another direction all have the same reason: no cruise (13-14) and no ABS.

    Man, I hope Honda learned from these omissions....though, I notice there are surprising number of features missing from the Star Eluder that are on the TC Touring.
    I agree 100%. I don't want a watered down F6B . I just don't want the trunk. To be honest, I'm pretty disappointed about the horse power and torque numbers and I don't like the speed governed at 112. I rarely go that fast, but it would be nice to have the option. I would hate to be beaten in a race by a two cylinder motorcycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    The article really was just speculating on the engine performance. We should know the truth in a couple weeks. Other info from another site had claimed the new engines are fed by 6 independent electronic throttles instead of the 2 barrel throttlebody of today;s bike. Also the "secret test ride group" reported more power and torque. Said that any specific engine specs were being held secret. We may be in for a surprise. just saying. At least that's how I'm going to think about it until I learn differently.
    The 2004 and 2005 Honda Rune had 6 individual throttle bodies feeding this same GL1800 engine. It's been done
    Yes, the Rune was quicker and had more torque off the line, however at the end of a 1/2 mile race between a VTX1800, a Goldwing GL1800 and a Honda Rune ... ALL 3 bikes were within 2-4 feet of each other at the finish line. Both the VTX and the Goldwing caught up to the Rune.
    I had one of my Runes on a DYNO and it had reached 142mph.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    The 2004 and 2005 Honda Rune had 6 individual throttle bodies feeding this same GL1800 engine. It's been done
    Yes, the Rune was quicker and had more torque off the line, however at the end of a 1/2 mile race between a VTX1800, a Goldwing GL1800 and a Honda Rune ... ALL 3 bikes were within 2-4 feet of each other at the finish line. Both the VTX and the Goldwing caught up to the Rune.
    I had one of my Runes on a DYNO and it had reached 142mph.
    As I understand it, there is no throttle bodies on the new engine. It will be throttle by wire. We will learn soon.
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    Just posted a new avatar with Rune Speedo.

    The bike had decelerated 2mph before the darn camera could take the photo.



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    That review (besides the weight) was a little underwelming for 16 years of development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmytee View Post
    As I understand it, there is no throttle bodies on the new engine. It will be throttle by wire. We will learn soon.


    It still needs throttle bodies. It just won’t have throttle cables most likely.

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    The speed limiter would be a deal breaker for me unless it can be disposed of with some sort of tune.

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