Possible concern for 2018 engines

[shortleg0521]

Or American Honda actually built engines for qualifying with no rings.
Yes you hear me no rings, they built them with such close tolerances
That there were no rings.These engines only lasted a short time. They were
only for qualifying.
I bring this up because I want to set you at ease as far as Honda engineering goes.

[olegoat345]

Honda & Toyota have the best engineers & tech's money can buy. In my opinion, they are far & ahead of anything else built anywhere.

[Heatnbeat]

Hmmm from the same people that sent some of the bikes out with less than the specified amount of lubricant?

[bob109]

Hmmm from the same people that sent some of the bikes out with less than the specified amount of lubricant?

There are manufacturers who's bikes leaked lubricants onto their Show Room floors! They learned to fill "crank cases and secondaries" only after the bikes were being delivered to the customers

[Heatnbeat]

Yeah, true that. I do have more faith in Honda than H-D😄

[Joflewbyu2]

Hopefully Honda does better than the Harley-Davidson bean counter that discontinued crank bushings for cost in 2011/2012 on the TC 96, 103 and 110 engines. Many owners had engine noise complaints on later engines and HD response was increased tolerances without bushings. They wouldn’t do anything unless the engine blew. The HD executive retired after touting the amount he saved the company. Of course he got paid a percentage of the bottom line so he didn’t care. He just squeezed a savings to make the bottom line look better.

[DMAGOLDRDR]

Just look at all the small outdoor power equipment, chain saws, trimmers ect: All aluminum piston & cylinders in an air cooled engine running around 12,000 rpms.

[thumper 549]

Hopefully Honda does better than the Harley-Davidson bean counter that discontinued crank bushings for cost in 2011/2012 on the TC 96, 103 and 110 engines. Many owners had engine noise complaints on later engines and HD response was increased tolerances without bushings. They wouldn’t do anything unless the engine blew. The HD executive retired after touting the amount he saved the company. Of course he got paid a percentage of the bottom line so he didn’t care. He just squeezed a savings to make the bottom line look better.

I know the epc story well.
I don't think Honda is so ivory towered.
Now that Willy is gone from HD, all that is left is the bean counters.
I predict tits up next 5 years.
This last engine (M8) is a POS by any measuring stick at all.
it will just help them to the BR court quicker.
IDC anymore.
They have not been loyal to me, and now i am not to them.
They do however sell a very nice wardrobe of stuff at very inflated prices if one is stupid enough to buy them.
i cannot imagine wanting to be their walking talking billboards.