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    I have never heard anyone say use the front brake if you are entering a turn to hot.
    Someone told me a few years back to gently apply or drag the rear.
    This technique has has helped me tremendously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrf13 View Post
    Steve
    I have never heard anyone say use the front brake if you are entering a turn to hot.
    Someone told me a few years back to gently apply or drag the rear.
    This technique has has helped me tremendously.
    The linked braking system will apply 33% REAR brake when the front is applied.

    I also use my front brakes to slow down if approaching/entering a curve too fast, 70% of the bikes weight is on that front tire when braking. The rear will brake lose much quicker in a curve than a front. Everyone has their own habits.



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    However or whatever riding style you choose, do not exceed your comfort level when riding. Always enter a corner with a speed that will allow you some room to tighten up your line. Once you've entered the corner, you can always increase your speed as you see your exit point. Especially when riding with others. If someone is faster than you, DO NOT exceed your comfort level while trying to keep up. It's better that your buddies wait for you at the next stop point than for them to have to come back for you and find you in a ditch or on the hood of an oncoming car. As I get older & my testosterone level has dropped, I can share this wisdom with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BARRYS770 View Post
    If someone is faster than you, DO NOT exceed your comfort level while trying to keep up. It's better that your buddies wait for you at the next stop point than for them to have to come back for you and find you in a ditch or on the hood of an oncoming car. As I get older & my testosterone level has dropped, I can share this wisdom with you.

    Barry
    As another wise rider says, "There is no trying in motorcycling." A corollary is the 3rd Rider rule: Riders 1 and 2 are more highly skilled and are riding faster. Rider number 3 is trying to keep up… until he augers it in on a turn.

    Don't try! Don't be the 3rd Rider!

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    Unclear of everyone's experience level or desires, but they do offer a 'advanced riders course' at several of the same places that have the MSF classes. It's BYOB, so you'll have an opportunity to test you on your 6. Might be a decent place to pick up a few pointers in a 'hands on' group setting.

    Braking into a corner after discovering you are too hot,,,, both brakes,,, Use every little bit of traction you can without loss of control. (Easier said than done! LOL!!!)

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    I believe I said in Franklin......( no one will ever say they are not the best bike rider out there ) and then some one proved me right. If your using your rear brake coming into a curve hot, then God bless you...you have been very lucky! And this is why I don't like these discussions and why I would rather ride with a group of not more than 4 riders that I KNOW !!!

    Here is Loris Capirossi coming into a corner to hot...notice the abundant use of rear brake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 0080 View Post
    And this is why I don't like these discussions and why I would rather ride with a group of not more than 4 riders that I KNOW !!!

    And this is why I intentionally stayed out of this discussion, until now. I read the original post by Mike, a few minutes after he posted it, and decided that I did not want to enter that fray. We can discuss accessories, maintenance, locations to ride, etc, but when it comes to advising another rider how to become a better rider...that is difficult to do in posts on as forum. As Scott suggested, they do offer an advanced riders course, but...in my opinion, I think an advanced riders course "may" be too advanced for Mike. I think he needs either a one on one instructor, or...learn on his own.

    As Steve stated about riding in groups...especialy with riders of unknown abilities, that is exactly what I surmissed in the parking lot at the hotel in Franklin, and why I said I would ride with Big Dawg, as I wanted to avoid being in the middle of 10 riders that did not have experience riding with one another, or in a group that size, with unknown abilities...like how to read a GPS (sorry, I ad to get that dig in there)

    F6BPDX, (Mike), if you want, I will make myself available to give you one on one instructions in riding. I know that you are fairly new to riding, only about 8 months of riding, so if I can lend a hand, I will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 0080 View Post
    ( no one will ever say they are not the best bike rider out there )
    Yep. 95% will tell you they are 'above average'!

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    I haven't had the pleasure of riding a wing/f6b but I would leave a lot of leeway in the twisties on a bike so big and heavy. You're gonna want to have plenty of time and space to adjust for those unknown surprises around the next corner. Have fun but ease into picking up the pace. Things can go bad quickly on large heavy fast machines.

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    F6BPDX (Mike),

    Something to consider is picking up Keith Code's latest book on motorcycle riding, A Twist of the Wrist 2: The Basics of High-Performance Motorcycle Riding (Paperback) for around $15.00 on Amazon. As stated on the Amazon page - "Straight facts about riding! A Twist of the Wrist, the acknowledged number one book on rider improvement for ten years straight, brought riders worldwide to a new understanding of vital riding skills. Uncovers and traces, action by action, the direct links between man and machine".

    Many riders think this book is only for Hyper-bike riders and yes many of the scenarios written about are based on track riding, however, it is an incredible book containing a vast knowledge of good riding skills tests and techniques. I've been riding 40+ years on the road and I still consult this book whether riding my 2011 Suzuki Hayabusa or my new 2013 F6B...safe and correct riding skills translates to any motorcycle!

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