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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Hand View Post
    Taxfree4, I missed the audio, but read the transcript. You knocked it out of the park. I disagree with starting a third party. Will only divide and conquer ourselves. I follow Larry Schweikart on Twitter. He says with the likes of Jeff Flakey and Bob Corkscrewed retiring, plus the huge Republican advantage in Trump-won states, the Senate will be replacing and adding about 10 MAGA senators this Nov. 6. Then you look at Lindsey “Granite” Graham’s MAGA conversion, it leads me to believe that the most effective way of WINNING is changing the party from within. Something Trump is singlehandedly doing.

    Anyways, I love your posts and your sharp wit. Hope you make it on Rush again, someday.
    It's really isn't a third party, Conservatives are orphans in the GOP. They treat us like the Dems treat the black vote: we'll tell you when to vote, vote for our guy, give us your $, thanks we'll take it from here. NY has always had a separate Conservative party and that's where I've been my whole life. So Rudy Giuliani was elected with a separate Cons. Party. Conservatives outside of NY have nowhere to go they are stuck in the GOP. Why should a Rand Paul Conservative be prisoner in the party of Jeb, Flake, Ryan and Romney? If a national Cons Party was started the constituents are already there as they show up at every Trump rally, we just need the organization. That giant sucking sound would be people leaving the GOP.

    Notice on the Kavanaugh confirmation there was no question where the Cons were voting only the squishy middle of the road GOPers: Flake, Collins and Murkowski. When Cons control their own party they control the hard and soft $, we can vote for Cons in primaries instead of holding our noses and pulling the lever for Bush, Flake or Ryan. We are in a new era, as I said on Rush the Dems come to fight the GOP want to be statesman. Case in point, during the debates Trump pulled Jeb's pants down and spanked him on front of the world. Jeb just stood there with that stupid smile on his face trying to look like a statesman, that worked out well. Trump proved with Kavanaugh that you NEVER give in and you bring the fight right back at them, the GOP doesn't know how to fight and the Dems are scared shitless because the Anita Hill strategy backfired and now they don't know what to do.

    You cannot change the party from within because too many of the old guard control the $. The change has to be rapid before the next election. The GOP will have to come to us with open hand. Do you think Rand Paul would have stopped the original vote? GrASSley did because he is a feckless, impotent, incompetent old man who wants to get along. They milked this for political advantage meanwhile this good man was left out to dry.
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    Grahm changed his act very quickly after MCCain "died". They were bff's. I think Grahm got a good deal and took it.
    Straighten up and fly "right" or else.
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    You guys are filled with so much hate, discontent, rage & there's always some sort conspiracy to under mine what ever you believe in at that time.
    I don't understand, you've got the house, the senate, supreme court & POTUS & you're still pissed all the time. You're never happy, what will it take? You sound like poor winners. Hell I'd be dancing in the street.
    Would you or one of the men or women, in your family, have the guts to do what Dr. Ford did? Dr. Ford had everything to lose, nothing to gain, but verbal & written abuse. The senate committee all "said" they believe something had happened to her. None of them called her a liar. You folks think she's a liar. Could it be which was the better liar? Could it be the senate just wanted to please Trump? At this point, it doesn't matter. he's in. So be it.
    Can you imagine how much guts it took for those mature men to out the priest that abused them? Something that happened when they were kids. Could all of them be lying too, I mean, it has been decades....Imagine carrying that penned up for decades.
    I know men & women that were abused when they were kids, young & old but never told anyone for decades. One of my best buddies told me things a priest did to him we were 7-10 yo. I'm sure many take the abuse to their grave w/o telling a soul.
    So go a head with your grade school name calling & trash talk. That's what you alt. right folks love to do. Don't state any "real" facts, just make it up as you go & have your rant, rage & grade school name calling...………….you really enjoy, it don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by olegoat345 View Post
    You guys are filled with so much hate, discontent, rage & there's always some sort conspiracy to under mine what ever you believe in at that time.
    I don't understand, you've got the house, the senate, supreme court & POTUS & you're still pissed all the time. You're never happy, what will it take? You sound like poor winners. Hell I'd be dancing in the street.
    Would you or one of the men or women, in your family, have the guts to do what Dr. Ford did? Dr. Ford had everything to lose, nothing to gain, but verbal & written abuse. The senate committee all "said" they believe something had happened to her. None of them called her a liar. You folks think she's a liar. Could it be which was the better liar? Could it be the senate just wanted to please Trump? At this point, it doesn't matter. he's in. So be it.
    Can you imagine how much guts it took for those mature men to out the priest that abused them? Something that happened when they were kids. Could all of them be lying too, I mean, it has been decades....Imagine carrying that penned up for decades.
    I know men & women that were abused when they were kids, young & old but never told anyone for decades. One of my best buddies told me things a priest did to him we were 7-10 yo. I'm sure many take the abuse to their grave w/o telling a soul.
    So go a head with your grade school name calling & trash talk. That's what you alt. right folks love to do. Don't state any "real" facts, just make it up as you go & have your rant, rage & grade school name calling...………….you really enjoy, it don't you?
    Just the opposite, no one knew who this lying hosebag was the day before and now she's a household name AND on the cover of TIME already. Because every victim spends days, before they are scheduled to testify before Congress, scrubbing their social media accounts eliminating their high school yearbook where it depicts you as, you're ready, a drunk who usually "passes out." Also everyone who DOESN'T want to testify always takes a polygraph before. And the yearbook also mentions about during Beach Week picking up adult men who "passed out in our hotel room". You need a Gastroneurologist to help you get your head out of your ass. Soon as Ruth Bader Ginsburg slips on the other banana peel we'll put Amy Coney Barrett in, overturn Roe v Wade, make owning a gun mandatory, arrest Hillary AND jail her, defund Planned Parenthood, strike down homosexual marriage then I'll be happy. One more thing, like I said on Twitter, have Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh administer the Oath of Office to President-elect Trump in January 2021 and leave the door to the roof of the Capitol open so Democrats can throw themselves the fuck off it after seeing that. THEN I'll be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olegoat345 View Post
    You guys are filled with so much hate, discontent, rage & there's always some sort conspiracy to under mine what ever you believe in at that time.
    I don't understand, you've got the house, the senate, supreme court & POTUS & you're still pissed all the time. You're never happy, what will it take? You sound like poor winners. Hell I'd be dancing in the street.
    Would you or one of the men or women, in your family, have the guts to do what Dr. Ford did? Dr. Ford had everything to lose, nothing to gain, but verbal & written abuse. The senate committee all "said" they believe something had happened to her. None of them called her a liar. You folks think she's a liar. Could it be which was the better liar? Could it be the senate just wanted to please Trump? At this point, it doesn't matter. he's in. So be it.
    Can you imagine how much guts it took for those mature men to out the priest that abused them? Something that happened when they were kids. Could all of them be lying too, I mean, it has been decades....Imagine carrying that penned up for decades.
    I know men & women that were abused when they were kids, young & old but never told anyone for decades. One of my best buddies told me things a priest did to him we were 7-10 yo. I'm sure many take the abuse to their grave w/o telling a soul.
    So go a head with your grade school name calling & trash talk. That's what you alt. right folks love to do. Don't state any "real" facts, just make it up as you go & have your rant, rage & grade school name calling...………….you really enjoy, it don't you?
    No. I wouldn't have the guts to manufacture a horrible lie to destroy a person just for politics. No. I wouldn't have the guts to reap hundreds of thousands of dollars off these lies. No I wouldn't have the guts to throw my alleged BFF under a bus after she doesn't cave to pressure from my other FBI BFF to also lie. I too had a neighbor try to sexually assault me when I was 7. I told my parents immediately and he paid the price. My sister was raped as a freshman in high school and the piece of shit who did it got 28 years. The reason he got slam dunked was because my sister came forward immediately and the proof was irrefutable not just an accusation. I laugh at your extreme alt left talking point that conservatives are angry and full of hate. Look in the mirror buddy as it was all of your fellow lefties screaming, wailing, and threatening people after you guys didn't get your way. As I've already stated, you get an A+ in hypocrisy and deflection.

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    The truth is not to be found in the Media for sure, but one must examine the information and make there own determination based on their own experience and judgment. What we are see is the end of a two party system due to the division in this country. Some of of have very Long memories as well let me offer you my perspective as to when this started. It started in the Clinton era, but not for the reasons you might expect such as his impeachment. It started when he took the North American Free Trade Treaty, which could not get through congressional approval. He retooled it and turned it into the North American Free Trade Act, which he then put into placement as he did not have to have congressional approval to enact. The last 25 years since have devastated middle america, middle class folks, who were both republicans and democrats . Trump is in the process of fixing that as we now see. The Democrats hard turn left began then, they always had a small faction in their party but that is when they took major control into what you see today. Unions finally woke up around 2010 and realized that they were about to lose their hard won health benefits due to taxation. That is when their dues paying folks started voting more independent and what you see today is a result of this situation. Just my 2$ worth of perspective.

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    Seems to me that Dr Ford has a lot to gain. Hero status among the left, TV appearances, book deals, speaking engagements; and don"t forget that big fat Gofundme account. All for something thateven if it really happened wasn't a reflection on her.

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    So, What would you do or how would YOU feel if you, your son, your brother in law, your father, your son in law, your brother was unjustly treated this way? By the way all the Female's in my life would never get into this situation in the first place, since you will ask! There is a reckoning coming the sleeping giant has awakened in this country.

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    I appears the alt far right thinks the only way to live in the USA, is the way their way & no other way. Giving the old, grey haired, white male, controlled US government, total control, over everyone and more control over anyone that disagrees with them. With even more laws & regulations over women & minorities. AKA "police state."
    Ever hear of Hitler & the Nazi party? Hitler started out kissing babies & sucking up to farmers & the working class. I a few short years, they're putting men, women, babies & kids in Nazi prison camps (like kids in cages in the US), when the Nazi camps got full, they gassed them, burned them up & used their ashes in road construction. Could anything like that ever happen here? OH, HELL NO, NEVER! Or could it? The US is building bigger "kids prison camps" as I type this. What happens when there's more kids than the camps can hold? Oh what the hell, that'll never happen here...……………..Or could it?

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