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    Yes it could happen here, But looking at the socialists like Bernie, and Ocasio Cortez gaining on the FAR FAR left, one has to ask what it would look like if they would gain control. Personally I am centrist, I have voted for member's of both party, neither of them deserve blind allegiance, The thing that needs happening now is we need to move forward to doing the right thing in this country, protect the borders, allow legal immigration to continue after vetting, fix the trade imbalances that have nearly destroyed the middle class in this country. I have yet to hear see a plan from the left side of this country. Just need to see what the left side plan is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olegoat345 View Post
    I appears the alt far right thinks the only way to live in the USA, is the way their way & no other way. Giving the old, grey haired, white male, controlled US government, total control, over everyone and more control over anyone that disagrees with them. With even more laws & regulations over women & minorities. AKA "police state."
    Ever hear of Hitler & the Nazi party? Hitler started out kissing babies & sucking up to farmers & the working class. I a few short years, they're putting men, women, babies & kids in Nazi prison camps (like kids in cages in the US), when the Nazi camps got full, they gassed them, burned them up & used their ashes in road construction. Could anything like that ever happen here? OH, HELL NO, NEVER! Or could it? The US is building bigger "kids prison camps" as I type this. What happens when there's more kids than the camps can hold? Oh what the hell, that'll never happen here...……………..Or could it?
    Deflect deflect deflect. You far alt lefties kill thousands of babies daily but you're worried about a kid encampment? Funny how you guys twist yourselves into so many knots because your attempt to destroy an innocent man failed. Can you even admit she was a liar? Of course you can't. Just remember, if a Hitler like person ever comes to power again, they will come from the left as they ALWAYS do and will exterminate the old goats first, as they always do.

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    We are at the tipping point. A third party cant come around fast enough to help.
    The man behind the curtain would pull strings and slow the process so much it would put "socialists" in power for generations.
    We must fight and stand our ground right here right now. First things first.
    We the people have the home field advantage. The ball is in the air.
    Lets score with what we have now and clean house after. Our house is still functional, and is being cleaned from within, as we speak.
    You all talk as though were divided? WE ARE NOT!
    We do want the same things. We want to be able to ride freely!
    You that defend the left, do you really want socialism??? Thats what they are shouting now. And proud of it.
    You need to be cleaning house as bad as conservatives.
    Their plan has finally come to light. And in the light, it cannot survive.
    We welcome new ideas. From anyone regardless of party.
    All I hear is bitching and whining. And I'm part of it too. Instead of the fighting, lets hear your ideas to fix things, so were all happy.
    We all live here. Look at what they have reduced us to.
    Whats the saying,,, Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
    How many times do you want to be the fool??
    This crap has been here since before the founding, as has been slowly gaining speed ever since.
    Lets ALL slow this train down before it goes over the cliff, and we'll sort it out later.
    Something is coming, and aint gonna be perty. For any of us!
    ITS ALL GOOD

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    Well put my Buckeye neighbor!

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    GENTLEMEN, WELL SAID !
    just to be clear, I vote both sides, right & left, I try to be opened minded, I try to get past the B/S & get the real, truthful, honest injun, facts, just the facts.
    I'll vote for who I feel will best help America first & then my state, then county...…If I screw up, make a mistake, I'll own up to it. learn from it.
    It's sad we have become so divided. There's plenty of blame on both sides for this huge division. I feel, there's also blame on Russia. The 1.7 million Russian ads / post as of (2years ago) Nov 2016 had a lasting effect on millions of people. Millions of people still think, whatever's online, TV, radio, newspaper or said by some, talking head or elected official, has to be true. All mentioned have a different spin on the facts...Having said that, WHO is telling the truth?? I don't have a answer for how to fix the division or finding the truthful, honest injun', facts, just the facts...…..do they exist anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by olegoat345 View Post
    GENTLEMEN, WELL SAID !
    just to be clear, I vote both sides, right & left, I try to be opened minded, I try to get past the B/S & get the real, truthful, honest injun, facts, just the facts.
    I'll vote for who I feel will best help America first & then my state, then county...…If I screw up, make a mistake, I'll own up to it. learn from it.
    It's sad we have become so divided. There's plenty of blame on both sides for this huge division. I feel, there's also blame on Russia. The 1.7 million Russian ads / post as of (2years ago) Nov 2016 had a lasting effect on millions of people. Millions of people still think, whatever's online, TV, radio, newspaper or said by some, talking head or elected official, has to be true. All mentioned have a different spin on the facts...Having said that, WHO is telling the truth?? I don't have a answer for how to fix the division or finding the truthful, honest injun', facts, just the facts...…..do they exist anymore?

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    How do you vote both? either you believe a centralized government is the answer, illegal immigrants shouldn't be prosecuted and put on public assistance (Democrats) or a decentralized government free market is superior and illegals should be stopped from coming in and shouldn't be on the public dole (Republican/Conservative)? Unless you're a single issue voter.
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    Okay Ewreck, You win. You win.... if you want to call it that.
    I'm done with your insults & name calling. I try to caring on a tit for tad the way gentlemen should. I'll not lower myself to your level of name calling & personal insults. Your mind is closed to any & all points of view other than your own. There's no reasoning with a closed mind...……….. So in your closed mind.. you win...…. I'll take my marbles & go away... the thread is all yours, to rant as much as you choose, even your own self.
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    The truth is nobody has won anything. Dr Ford was just used like yesterdays newspaper. Justice Kavanaugh and his reputation and family was trashed. This whole incident was not necessary period. The country if left to look at this entire debacle and try and make some sense of it. I will say that all my friends from both sides and all Americans have an innate sense of decency, fairness, the rule of law. I dont think any of these American values have been served,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokomo Kevin View Post
    The truth is nobody has won anything. Dr Ford was just used like yesterdays newspaper. Justice Kavanaugh and his reputation and family was trashed. This whole incident was not necessary period. The country if left to look at this entire debacle and try and make some sense of it. I will say that all my friends from both sides and all Americans have an innate sense of decency, fairness, the rule of law. I dont think any of these American values have been served,
    I blame both parties, the Democrats for springing this fairy tale at the last minute and trying their old Anita Hill game plan of unsubstantiated allegations to not only stop a nomination but ruin a man's life. I blame Republicans for Grassley stopping the vote on a 36 yr old unsubstantiated claim for one reason: to squeeze the political capital out of it for the midterms while leaving this good man dangling out there while his reputation, career, family and name were dragged through the mud. That's why a national Conservative Party will fix it and it will be a place where God fearing, unapologetically Pro-Life, pro 2nd Amendment people can go.
    Equitare solum equitare amplius

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    Could not agree more with you Taxfree. It is a nice day here in Indiana, and as we Hoosiers have a fondness of saying "Times a wastin" let's go riding it will all work it self out. Question for you did you ever find a new horse for your old saddle? Toughest decision I will make today is which one gets saddled up first The 13 RED Rocket or the 98 Valk which is the original baby....
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