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    Synthetic or Dino?

    Oil change time. I have always used synthetic motor ( any brand), but every time, I wonder if I am just wasting money.
    Honda doesn't require it and even the dealership service managers don't push it. I do it because I feel it's better for the bike.
    Yes, it will run cooler and maybe smoother but does it really make a difference in the end?
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    Make me also feel better, so worth it just for the feeling. I have been riding mini bikes to drag racing bikes often told in crazy wild ways since 1973. I has 3 different drag racing bikes over 5 years
    Since 1982 only one bike I did not run synthetic and only one big engine bearing issue, yep same bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big TP View Post
    Oil change time. I have always used synthetic motor ( any brand), but every time, I wonder if I am just wasting money.
    Honda doesn't require it and even the dealership service managers don't push it. I do it because I feel it's better for the bike.
    Yes, it will run cooler and maybe smoother but does it really make a difference in the end?
    Oil threads/opinions can get very boring and lengthy with hundreds of different opinions....Run what you feel comfortable with and enjoy the ride......Regards

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    Whatever you do, stay away from that Rotella stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewreck View Post
    Whatever you do, stay away from that Rotella stuff...
    And your reason/opinion is?????...Personal I suppose as are all oil posts......

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    Quote Originally Posted by opas ride View Post
    And your reason/opinion is?????...Personal I suppose as are all oil posts......
    S A R C A S M. I use it. You're 100% correct in it being personal. My wife, who was a Chevron oil and lubricant rep for over 25 years and has the degrees and certifications that tells me she knows WAY more than I do laughs when I mention these oil threads. She would tell anyone if they were to ask, run whatever the hell you want if it meets spec for the application. She'd even tell you off the record you could probably dump any oil viscosity into your engine and get away with it. She would also tell you syn blends are a waste of money. If you enjoy changing oil every 3 or 4K don't blow the extra cash on synthetics. I use full synthetic, multiple brands,in all my motors and change it every 12k with 0.00 oil related problems in any motor I've ever had. I've had oil analyzed after use and it's never been close to being "bad". Anyone who runs big equipment or has a fleet of vehicles usually pays to test the oil instead of blanket changes every X amount of miles as its more cost effective. There's my reason why I do what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opas ride View Post
    oil threads/opinions can get very boring and lengthy with hundreds of different opinions....run what you feel comfortable with and enjoy the ride......regards
    exactly!!!!

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    Like I mentioned, not looking for a "long and boring debate" on brands or weights. Just an observation if in the "long run", does it really matter?
    Would an engine failure occur regardless of using the spec oil that Honda recommends or "upgrading" to syn?
    I assume the engine tolerances have not really changed otherwise syn would be required.
    Point is there are many 1800 motors out there well over 100k miles that surely never ran syn.
    Just an observation.
    Maybe I should have simply asked, "which do you run and why?'
    Last edited by Big TP; 12-13-2018 at 07:36 PM.

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    There is the story of the sales rep in the deep South with a company Corolla. He drove it 5 days a week and at every oil change interval he pestered the owner to get it changed, which he ignored. Finally at 89,000 miles the car was sold. It was a small town. 5 years later he saw the car still running around town.

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    I knew a guy a few years ago that had an old Honda Civic, 2001/2 I think, that had over 100,000 miles on it..He claimed that the oil had never been changed during the entire time he owned it???...BTW, he has since passed away and I have no idea what happened to the car....Regards and ride safe

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