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    Yamaha Star Eluder

    New Cruiser without the bags. When the Venture line came out, I was a little awe struck. I liked it, or the idea if it, but had some concerns about the weight and it being air cooled and belt driven. Still, I liked the looks of it, the infotainment center, the electric windshield. Only problem was, I had never seen one in person, until today.

    I was in a dealer that carries Yamaha and they had three Eluders . I've never been so relieved and disappointed at the same time. I was very disappointed in the finish. The driver dash looked cheap, the plastic for the compartments is thin and brittle, the handlebar and assembly look cheap. This is was quite the disparity to what I thought I had seen in pictures. It looked so polished and finished out so well in pictures and videos. I couldn't believe it was the same bike. Perhaps the Venture has a better finish, but what I saw today was not good. I was relieved that I never, ever had to think about this bike again, so there's that.

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    Interesting. I have sat on a Venture and an Eluder, and the fit and finish did not stand out to me as good or bad. What I took away was how heavy it was to get off the side stand and how swept back the handlebars are. I can't imagine feeling confident riding either one, but I would love to try one out. Also, and I know it is hard to tell on videos, but they look really slow when watching test riders accelerate in the test ride groups with other bikes.

    I did a quick search on Cycle Trader for Ventures last night, and they are almost giving away leftover '18s for $20k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VStarRider View Post
    Interesting. I have sat on a Venture and an Eluder, and the fit and finish did not stand out to me as good or bad. What I took away was how heavy it was to get off the side stand and how swept back the handlebars are. I can't imagine feeling confident riding either one, but I would love to try one out. Also, and I know it is hard to tell on videos, but they look really slow when watching test riders accelerate in the test ride groups with other bikes.

    I did a quick search on Cycle Trader for Ventures last night, and they are almost giving away leftover '18s for $20k.
    They would have to give them away for me to even consider one...Too ugly, big, heavy, and just not for me!!!!

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    If it's like most newer V Twins, I'm bettin' it's a hot ride. Top heavy & super hot, is why I got rid on my '16 Indian Chief, that was right after I took a test ride on a B.

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    IMO, Yamaha blew it with another V-Twin, air cooled, belt driven clone. Should’ve slapped a Vmax, shaft drive, liquid cooling in it. I haven’t seen one personally, but sounds like the fit and finish is underwhelming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Hand View Post
    IMO, Yamaha blew it with another V-Twin, air cooled, belt driven clone. Should’ve slapped a Vmax, shaft drive, liquid cooling in it. I haven’t seen one personally, but sounds like the fit and finish is underwhelming.
    Fit and finish were shockingly bad. Not what I was expecting at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Hand View Post
    IMO, Yamaha blew it with another V-Twin, air cooled, belt driven clone. Should’ve slapped a Vmax, shaft drive, liquid cooling in it. I haven’t seen one personally, but sounds like the fit and finish is underwhelming.
    ++! on the V-MAx motor and drive train.
    They messed up when they discontinued the V-4. The power of my V-max and Older venture were effortless.
    ITS ALL GOOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenxxx View Post
    ++! on the V-MAx motor and drive train.
    They messed up when they discontinued the V-4. The power of my V-max and Older venture were effortless.
    When I had my 2014 Super Tenere, a buddy of mine had a mid 90’s Venture. We came to a stop, and I gunned it. I looked in my mirror, expecting to see him way behind. Nope. He was right on my tail. Mind you, that was a full dressed Venture with car vents in the dash.


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    I find the Eluder quite a good looking bike but when I did a demo ride my legs were very hot. Weird shifting too.
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    I think it's time the Japanese quit trying to build a big V-twin to compete with Harley Davidson...Good or bad, for the most part they have failed...I had a VTX1800F and it was a really nice bike, but now it is gone into the sunset where most others have gone..Indian is doing fair so far, Victory bit the dust, as have many others..Harley has had the big V-twin market forever, bad bikes or not, and even with slowing sales they will continue to dominate the market in that segment...I am in no way a HD fan and would never buy one, but you have got to give them credit as they seem to survive the ups and downs of the motorcycle industry...Regards and ride safe

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