Leaving California.........

[wildman]

You don't need to listen to Fox News to know how bad California is, just read the LA times. It sounds to me like you might be a bit sensitive about the truth.

[Draxsr]

Because Fox news 'made all that up'? Couldn't simply be true, could it? Turn off MSNBC and/or CNN for Gods sake!

[Fourks]

Because Fox news 'made all that up'? Couldn't simply be true, could it? Turn off MSNBC and/or CNN for Gods sake!

No, there’s some truth on both sides. And I might vote Rebulican for the first time in my life. But I get tired of all you whiners playing right into foreign hands. Even street pooping libs are Americans! A lot of them homeless veterans too.

[jm21ddd15]

No, there’s some truth on both sides. And I might vote Rebulican for the first time in my life. But I get tired of all you whiners playing right into foreign hands. Even street pooping libs are Americans! A lot of them homeless veterans too.

Now you have called us "whiners" and "lunatics". And I am a Veteran, in case you are interested. Not sure where you come up with that line about playing into foreign hands. Doesn't make any sense.

[olegoat345]

I read that CA. is the worlds, third largest economy. No matter which side of this silly debate you're on, somebody must be doing something right.
I don't understand all the anger & hate just because someone doesn't think / act just like you do...….... No matter which side of this silly debate you're on.

[VaBob]

So whats your argument FOR living in California? Its easy to find stuff we dont like about anything and everything. But what is it that we should like about it?

Not arguing for the sake of it, just trying to promote conversation and free thinking.

[Fourks]

So whats your argument FOR living in California? Its easy to find stuff we dont like about anything and everything. But what is it that we should like about it?

Not arguing for the sake of it, just trying to promote conversation and free thinking.

Family ( I promise none of them poop in the streets) Ocean, Sierra Nevada mountain range, Red hot economy with high paying jobs, and lots of free thinking. I think California is a victim of its own success.

[53driver]

I view elections like those "Group School Projects" - I know I did MY part right, I just hope all y'all did your due diligence.....

[Cooter]

I view elections like those "Group School Projects" - I know I did MY part right, I just hope all y'all did your due diligence.....

Not trying to single you out 53 , we have been talking about this subject at the local old farts hangout. I believe this voting thing is a little too free. Why should an apartment dweller be allowed to vote on my property taxes. In fact that is allowing a person that this does not affect to impose a tax on me. Wife and I was thinking about selling and building a new smaller house. Then we found out that real estate taxes would be three times higher than what we pay now. I'll stay in my old house for that. The thousands of renter's in my county pass every school tax that is.put on the ballot. Every tax for law enforcement , and every tax for the ambulance district. These entities are the biggest wasters of my tax dollars.

[BIGLRY]

Not trying to single you out 53 , we have been talking about this subject at the local old farts hangout. I believe this voting thing is a little too free. Why should an apartment dweller be allowed to vote on my property taxes. In fact that is allowing a person that this does not affect to impose a tax on me. Wife and I was thinking about selling and building a new smaller house. Then we found out that real estate taxes would be three times higher than what we pay now. I'll stay in my old house for that. The thousands of renter's in my county pass every school tax that is.put on the ballot. Every tax for law enforcement , and every tax for the ambulance district. These entities are the biggest wasters of my tax dollars.

I'm just playing "devil's advocate" here.
So by that reasoning only property owners should be able to vote on ballots concerning property taxes in elections? If so how do you separate non property owners from property owners at the ballot box and keep the voting process anonymous? Renters as well as property owners both send their children to the same schools and both ride on the same roads and call the same law enforcement, ambulance or firefighters when in need?
Do not some renters become property owners...I know I was a renter for many years until my wife and I saved enough for the down payment on our first home?
Oh, and speaking of buying a home, here where I live a single-family home sells for a median price of $600,860. Could you or anyone eles just starting out in life earning minimum wage with a new wife or a few rug rats running around afford to buy?
And what about former property owners who now rent... i.e. divorce, lost job and must sell. Should there be some mechanism in place so they can't vote on property tax issues in the future?
I see your logic, but not the practicability nor unfortunately any equitable solutions to the issue.

Yea, property taxes are a very sore subject with me too. Why do I have to pay school taxes now when all my children finished school 30+ years ago and don't even live in this state?