F6B VS New Golding DCT in a race

[RuneRider66]

Does anyone have any real time experience with the F6B and the 2018 Honda Goldwing DCT as in direct head to head performance or racing each other? I know the F6B has more HP and Torque but it's also heavier and the DCT transmission on the new wing makes shifting absolutely critical on the F6B during a race.


Any fist hand knowlede?

[F6Dave]

I thought I read that the new 1833 cc engine made slightly more power than our 1832 cc versions. It should with the 4 valve heads. With better breathing I have to wonder why Honda didn't tune the new engine to be more competitive with the K1600.

With similar power, lighter weight, and 2 more gears the new Wing should outrun an F6B, but I haven't seen any comparisons.

[Cooter]

I thought I read that the new 1833 cc engine made slightly more power than our 1832 cc versions. It should with the 4 valve heads. With better breathing I have to wonder why Honda didn't tune the new engine to be more competitive with the K1600.

With similar power, lighter weight, and 2 more gears the new Wing should outrun an F6B, but I haven't seen any comparisons.

I wouldn't bet my paycheck on that.

[RuneRider66]

I read 97 HP and 108 ft lbs of torque for 2018 model. Its also speed limited to 112 mph. As far as I understand. Am I wrong?

[F6Dave]

I saw a HP/Torque graph comparing the 2 engines, and the 1833 was slightly higher throughout the rev range. I can't remember where I saw it, but it was over a year ago when the new bike just hit the showrooms.

As for the limiter, I've read that too. I'm amazed that Honda set it so low. I think the K1600 has a limit on the LT model, but the GT has a higher limit or none at all.

[Travelor]

I saw a HP/Torque graph comparing the 2 engines, and the 1833 was slightly higher throughout the rev range. I can't remember where I saw it, but it was over a year ago when the new bike just hit the showrooms.

As for the limiter, I've read that too. I'm amazed that Honda set it so low. I think the K1600 has a limit on the LT model, but the GT has a higher limit or none at all.

Only the K1600 Grand America (bagger with the top case) is speed limited. Top end on the GTL and GT is over 130.

[F6Dave]

Only the K1600 Grand America (bagger with the top case) is speed limited. Top end on the GTL and GT is over 130.

I had my letters wrong. I meant the GTL, not LT. I think BMW has a policy to limit speed on any bike with a top case, which the GTL has. OTOH, BMW's limits are much higher than Honda's. I've read that the GTL is limited to 136 MPH. That seems high enough for me, but there's still plenty of info on the web about removing the GTL's limiter.

[F6Dave]

This may be where I saw the power comparison. It's an article on Motorcycle.com that claims the new engine beats the old one. They included a chart, and it looks to me like the engines are pretty close except at the top end.

https://www.motorcycle.com/manufactu...wing-tour.html

[Joflewbyu2]

Honda claims 118 hp for F6B and 125 hp for the new bike. Torque if I recall correctly was 123 vs 125.

[Verismo]

I test rode the new DCT alongside a full wing. I walked away from it at will, no matter how hard he tried to keep up. I didn't get up to the speed limiter, so I'm assuming that would eventually meter out over distance. I don't see any way a B could keep up shifting through the gears.

Jason