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    Quote Originally Posted by zeus661 View Post
    I like to be able to get into my bags while the bike is running. I don't want to carry two keys either. I don't want to cut a key and leave it in either. I like riding all day and leaving them unlocked like I did with previous bikes. I personally think it is a stupid function that Honda should have put more thought into. I ask you why does Honda think we need to have them locked all the time? Why did they not think this out? They did on other bikes with saddlebags.
    Agree with you 100%, completely stupid function that I have never had on any other bike. My Wing does not do that, but if it did at least it has a remote, and no I am not going to buy and install the bag openers. Not about being lazy, it is about what is convenient for me, and it is about how I want it. Looks like you want it that way too.

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    With help from a phone call to Dweisman49 I was able to modify my lock so I can now unlock the saddlebags AND remove the key. Below is a picture of the tumbler before I modified it. Fairly easy to do with a Dremel tool. Sorry I didn't take step by step pictures.

    1. First you will need to remove the lock from the bike. There are many videos showing how to get access to that area.

    2. Next you will need to remove the nylon part that holds the cable to release the lock. There is a small pin holding it in place. I drilled a small hole on the opposite side so I could push the pin back out. (Not pictured below)

    3. Next you will need to remove the chrome ring that hold the tumbler inside the casing. There are 3 tabs you will need to bend out of the way.

    4. In the picture below you can see two groves about 1/4" wide at 6 & 12 O'clock inside the casing.. You will need to cut/grind two more groves inside that casing at 3 & 9 O'clock. (RED area)

    Lock1.jpg

    When you have the tumbler outside the casing slowly pull the key out and you will see the small plates raising and lowering allowing removal of the key. This is why two new grooves need to be cut, to allow those plates to raise.

    As you create the two new grooves test them by inserting the tumbler. I used my Dremel with a small burr tool and took my time.

    Once you are able to remove the key in the new position just reassemble and enjoy.

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    Last edited by zeus661; 03-26-2020 at 08:50 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeus661 View Post
    With help from a phone call to Dweisman49 I was able to modify my lock so I can now unlock the saddlebags AND remove the key. Below is a picture of the tumbler before I modified it. Fairly easy to do with a Dremel tool. Sorry I didn't take step by step pictures.

    1. First you will need to remove the lock from the bike. There are many videos showing how to get access to that area.

    2. Next you will need to remove the nylon part that holds the cable to release the lock. There is a small pin holding it in place. I drilled a small hole on the opposite side so I could push the pin back out. (Not pictured below)

    3. Next you will need to remove the chrome ring that hold the tumbler inside the casing. There are 3 tabs you will need to bend out of the way.

    4. In the picture below you can see two groves about 1/4" wide at 6 & 12 O'clock inside the casing.. You will need to cut/grind two more groves inside that casing at 3 & 9 O'clock. (RED area)

    Lock1.jpg

    When you have the tumbler outside the casing slowly pull the key out and you will see the small plates raising and lowering allowing removal of the key. This is why two new grooves need to be cut, to allow those plates to raise.

    As you create the two new grooves test them by inserting the tumbler. I used my Dremel with a small burr tool and took my time.

    Once you are able to remove the key in the new position just reassemble and enjoy.

    Mark
    I always enjoy how hard we will work when some engineer pisses us off.
    We will out think that S.O.B. every time.
    When I worked in Telcom and networking we would have troubles and call the engineers and before we were done
    we would end up doing what we call field engineer it to a solution.
    It left us at times thinking these collage educated engineers only knew what time the train left the station
    To be fair it is always easier sometimes to fix stuff if you are on prem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortleg0521 View Post
    I always enjoy how hard we will work when some engineer pisses us off.
    We will out think that S.O.B. every time.
    When I worked in Telcom and networking we would have troubles and call the engineers and before we were done
    we would end up doing what we call field engineer it to a solution.
    It left us at times thinking these collage educated engineers only knew what time the train left the station
    To be fair it is always easier sometimes to fix stuff if you are on prem.
    I can not understand why anyone would design it so you can not remove the key when unlocked. Anyone have any guesses?
    Former owner of a 99 Valkyrie for 15 years.

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    So you can't lock the key in the bag? :shrugs:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draxsr View Post
    So you can't lock the key in the bag? :shrugs:
    Oh Yea! That would be bad!
    Last edited by SeaSteve; 03-30-2020 at 09:18 AM.
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    Thank you. I am going to save this for my future projects!

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    My guess is so the passenger won't open it while moving

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    There must be a Corporate CYA/Legal reason for locking the Honda Ignition key in the lock.
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    But you definitely can lock the key in the bags...unlock then open the bag, remove the key from the lock and put it in the bag...then close the bag.

    And that is with or without the lock mod. But I very rarely lock my bags so it not usually an issue
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