Then that was an evolution of the BMW engine. My point is that any engine a manufacturer makes is usually an improvement, from wherever they get the technology, or an evolution, in the raw sense of the word.
Then that was an evolution of the BMW engine. My point is that any engine a manufacturer makes is usually an improvement, from wherever they get the technology, or an evolution, in the raw sense of the word.
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they sella kit to lower the fairing on the road glide and it makes a big difference.
But again it is another thing you have to buy and install yourself or pay Harley to install.
Nothing less that Hundred Dollars hence HD
Because Harley has always used its" customers as their R&D Dept. like how big can we make an air cooled engine till it literally fries someone's balls off, then the lawsuit will settle and that'll be their power plateau. BTW, shortleg I sent you a PM a while ago, did you get it?Originally Posted by shortleg0521
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I don't read much motorcycle news these days. Frankly it was more interesting in the 1970s and 1980s when exciting new bikes hit the market every year. I hadn't paid much attention to the Milwaukee 8 since it was introduced. But Az Wingrider's comments got me interested so I took a bit of a refresher course. I have to say the design is impressive. It might even be the engine that saves the company.
H-D had a real dilemma. Compliance with emissions regs had created serious driveability and heat issues. On a ride to Sturgis 15 years ago many Harley riders and especially passengers were complaining about the heat. Clearly upgrades were needed. But history and tradition is important to these owners, who like the look, sound, and (some of) the feel of the air cooled twins. So the upgrades had to be discrete.
I'd say they did a good job. 4 valve heads increased flow by 50%, but the pushrod valve train looks traditional and is maintenance free. Apparently the improved flow didn't just add HP, it also reduced heat. Moving the cat helped as well, and water cooled heads on the bigger bikes cool it even more. I'd heard that the radiators were hidden in the sidepods to keep the purists happy, but I haven't seen conformation of that. A counter balancer eliminated much of the brutal vibration, but intentionally kept some of the character. I get that. As much as I love my F6B and Valkyries, I have to admit they are ultra-refined and very car like. At times I wouldn't mind a bit more personality.
Well said F6Dave.
Arguing about Harley on a Goldwing forum. Why don't you guys PM each other instead of acting like kids.
2013 F6B in black of course
Actually I found most of the discussion interesting, and it encouraged me to do more research on Harley's new engine. I've owned 6 Hondas, and really like my Valkyries and F6B. However, if I were in the market for another motorcycle I probably wouldn't be shopping in Honda dealerships. The company's passion for motorcycles started to decline after Mr. Honda died. That decline appears to be accelerating as evidenced by rumors of the Goldwing's demise. Their exit from Formula 1 racing is another indicator. Much of this is driven by a corporate green agenda that borders on extreme.
If I were looking at another motorcycle it would probably be a BMW or Triumph, or maybe even a Moto Guzzi. I'd consider an Indian, and might even take a look at a Harley. Wow, I can't believe I just said that!
borderline suicidal. their corporate outlook at least on the US side has lost sight of the core beliefs of Mr Honda. its sad, and terrifying.
[QUOTE=DaWadd;189167]Arguing about Harley on a Goldwing forum. Why don't you guys PM each other instead of acting like kids.[/QUOTE
It's so easy for me to mind my own business why is it so hard for other people. This is a discussion about motorcycles. There is no prohibition about what motorcycles we discuss. To voluntarily go out of your way to be annoyed, offended or just pissed, and then comment on it, seems a little menstrual. I suggest you don't read the posts that annoy you and if you have nothing constructive to add...don't, otherwise, move on.
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Who gives a shit.
Id rather talk about weather we will still have anything to ride in a few years.
We'll all be on electric bicycles if this social nonsense keeps snowballing.
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