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    Historically speaking...Polictical

    This is all factually (and historically) correct - and verifiable.

    Let's go back
    ... In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.

    …in 1571 AD the Muslim Army/Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack Southern Europe in the Battle of Lapanto.

    ....in 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christian Armies.

    ....this has been going on for 1,400 years and many politicians and citizenry don't even know it!!!

    …if these battles had not been won we could be speaking Arabic and Christianity might be non - existent;

    Judaism certainly would be... And let us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler's guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions: the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who killed Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and any other "subhuman's".

    Reflecting A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
    ........Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!!

    Do you remember?

    1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male.
    2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.
    3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males
    4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome, with 33 people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.
    5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.
    6. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.
    7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.
    8. In 1985, the Cruise Ship Achilles Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.
    9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.
    10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.
    11. In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.
    12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.
    13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim males.
    14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.
    15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by---you guessed it was a--- Muslim male.
    16. In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child killed, 264 injured by Muslim males.

    Pretty good argument for profiling, huh? Thank goodness TSA has relaxed at least some of their protocols now, but there is no room in America for a religion that is intolerant of other religions, and whose radical followers are unable to coexist peacefully with them. Please keep all this in mind as our nation faces this global enemy and pray that our leaders will protect us from them.
    " Truth is often deemed rude, blunt and to the point which is why so few make their friend " Freddy Hayler ..352-267-1553 Sanford, FLA Gutterman6000@Gmail.com

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    AGREE

    And some still won't get it or understand it.

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    Thanks for posting this Steve!!! and Amen!!!
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    Extremist's of any type that encourage/use violence to support/promote their cause are a plight.

    In some ways, there does seem to be a 'trend/link' towards 'Muslim', but I believe the sheer numbers of Muslims worldwide make it seem notable,,, while the percentage of Muslim Males committing these acts is actually quite small.

    Just for S + G,,,,, There are just over 2 billion (2,000,000,000) Muslins in the world today. (23% of the worlds population) almost 1 out of every 4 people worldwide,,,

    Assuming a fairly equal ratio of Muslim Males to Muslim females, then there are about 1 Billion Muslim males. (1,000,000,000).

    There are approx. 317 million people in the US,,, so there are approx. 1,000 Muslim Males for every 317 American man, woman, or child. (Or, 3.155 Muslim Males per every American man, woman, or child)

    If a thousand acts were each perpetrated by a hundred different individuals per each individual act, You would have a ratio 100,000 'act-ee's' / 1,000,000,000 Muslim Males or, 1 out of 10,000 Muslim Males who participated one time in one 'act'. (As we know, most 'acts' that make the news do not involve a hundred 'one time' participants,,, Most acts are by far smaller groups, and a very few are possibly 'repeat offenders')

    Even with the skewed data I've listed above, I'm sure glad I don't have to find that '1 out of 10,000',,,

    I do feel sorrow for any person unjustly targeted by their creed/religion/sex. I wish there was a way to look at everyone with the same 'vision', but, when religious extremism is a factor in the 'act', then religion becomes a part of the 'search' for perpetrators,,, I'm not sure it can be done otherwise, but it's not a pleasant thing for the other 9,999 folks who had nothing to do with it.

    (Disclaimer: While the terms 'act' and 'Muslim' were thrown around freely in my post, I do not claim to be an expert on terrorism, the Muslim faith, or mean to insinuate any connection between the 2 which may imply muslim = terrorist. IMHO, there are far smaller groups with far greater percentages of criminal activity than any 'religion')

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    I find this post a little OTT, especially when this forum has people of other nations than America and possibly other relations than Christianity and that it was made by a mod saddens me. We are on this forum because we all share a common pleasure. Politics and religious bigotry have no place here IMHO.

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    I can't find where in Steve's post that could be construed as bigotry?

    Perhaps the use of Muslim where it should say Islamist Extremists?

    Just as Scotrod states, "Extremist's of any type that encourage/use violence to support/promote their cause are a plight.s"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    I find this post a little OTT, especially when this forum has people of other nations than America and possibly other relations than Christianity and that it was made by a mod saddens me. We are on this forum because we all share a common pleasure. Politics and religious bigotry have no place here IMHO.
    Like SP said, perhaps 'Islamic Extremists' might have been a better choice of words than Muslim.

    Unfortunately, both 'muslim' and 'terrorists' have been used in the same sentence so many times by the news media that folks seem to associate one with the other. We all need to be vigilant in our own understanding that Muslim does not automatically mean Extremist nor does it mean terrorist. No more than 'Texan' or 'Baptist' means extremist/terrorist.

    Politics is 'fair game' here as long as it's in the 'Off topic' thread, which is where this post is located.

    I try to avoid the 'off topic' area, but Steve's been on a rampage here lately and I keep getting snookered into it!!!

    LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotrod View Post
    No more than 'Texan' or 'Baptist' means extremist/terrorist.
    Uh... I'm kin to some extreme Texas Baptist!!!

    Keep in mind, i'm the guy wearing the bra on my head!!! Nuff said!
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    Islam is more cult-like than religious. Many of the precepts of Islam are contrary to our laws and constitution. When push comes to shove muslims will fall back on their religion. You can see that now in places like Flint, MI and other locals where there is a push for Sharia law. My opinion is not based on mere belief, but on years of study and postings to muslim countries. If you believe all this "religion of peace" BS, or that the violence is only perpetuated by a few extremist, you will someday be in for a rude awakening.

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    With the exception of Jainism all religions have violent pasts after all my God is bigger than your God has been the battle cry for centuries.

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