Strange motorcycle crash story

[Ericb445]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...-in-black-hawk

Be careful out there. If you have carry permit how do you carry on your bike, if you care to share?

I tend to pocket carry in an uncle mikes holster.

[Steve 0080]

File this under strange...did the guy pull the weapon to shoot the Hit and Run guy?, was the safety off and the gun discharge, was it cocked/loaded w/wo a safety ...to much not being told here.....

[shooter]

Lately I've been carrying in pocket Desantis Nemesis. Springfield XDs 45ACP. Sometimes on the ankle. Alessi ankle rig with a Kimber Super Carry Ultra. Sometimes the XD like that also. Depends on how high the boot is I'm wearing. These days the pocket carry seems to be my favorite. That Nemesis makes a gun disappear.

[jaygollner]

Glock # 36 with a Pierce +1 grip in a De Santis pocket holster.

[luckyluciano]

Not trying to hijack but I have to ask. I'm from Canada and with all due respect to our American friends, I do not own a weapon and never ever thought of it. Yes, I grew up with a dad from the military with a gun and I have shot and killed more animals with it than most hunters ever will. Yes we have crime but odds are so low I've never considered defending myself by shooting someone. It would end me up in the slammer and I don't want to be raped. Not a good alternative. Lol .

Are things that bad down there that you have such a need?
(Ya, I 've heard the constitution stance but I still don't get the obsession)

Not afraid of being flamed here because I know you won't try and shoot me ! It will end you up in jail where you will get raped instead of me. Lol!

Besides , Too many other things to worry about when riding. Wouldn't want to worry about a gun going off as well.

[shooter]

Its not bad in all places. But you never know. A wise man once said "its better to be tried by twelve than carried by six". In other words better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Its not for everyone. I've been carrying concealed for 32 years. Way before it was legal in my state. I feel naked without one. Might sound stupid to you but its as common as putting my wallet in my pocket.,

[Hornblower]

Are things that bad down there that you have such a need?
(Ya, I 've heard the constitution stance but I still don't get the obsession)

For sure, Lucky, this is a legitimate question. Here's something to consider...the fact that many are walking around carrying concealed is a huge deterrent to bad things happening. Just review the news and you start realizing that many, if not most, of the mass shootings have occured in places where guns were supposedly prohibited. These were places like schools, theaters, restaurants, etc. who posted no weapons notices. That's like a welcome sign to any bad guys who want to harm others. So yes, IMHO, we need more "good people" carrying guns and fewer places prohibiting them. That said, it's a huge responsibility to carry and one to be taken very, very seriously.

BTW, my personal favorite is a Sig P238. It's very small and amazingly accurate. And, with todays' ammo, can definitely do some damage.

[austin_tech]

Are things that bad down there that you have such a need?
(Ya, I 've heard the constitution stance but I still don't get the obsession)

Nah, no need, this is a cultural trend of late. Some of the southern states have liberalized gun regulations to the point of absurdity. Wear a kevlar vest in AZ or OK, it's the Wild West, baby!

Also, carrying a firearm with a round chambered (I presume the motorcyclist in the article did) is not a good idea unless you're in a war zone and there is an imminent threat. That's basic military training. It's also common sense.

And yes, I have firearms and a CC: license.

[Deer Slayer]

Not trying to hijack but I have to ask. I'm from Canada and with all due respect to our American friends, I do not own a weapon and never ever thought of it. Yes, I grew up with a dad from the military with a gun and I have shot and killed more animals with it than most hunters ever will. Yes we have crime but odds are so low I've never considered defending myself by shooting someone. It would end me up in the slammer and I don't want to be raped. Not a good alternative. Lol .

Are things that bad down there that you have such a need?
(Ya, I 've heard the constitution stance but I still don't get the obsession)

Not afraid of being flamed here because I know you won't try and shoot me ! It will end you up in jail where you will get raped instead of me. Lol!

Besides , Too many other things to worry about when riding. Wouldn't want to worry about a gun going off as well.

It tis called people on DRUGS! You have the same problem in your part of North America.

[Steve 0080]

Not trying to hijack but I have to ask. I'm from Canada and with all due respect to our American friends, I do not own a weapon and never ever thought of it. Yes, I grew up with a dad from the military with a gun and I have shot and killed more animals with it than most hunters ever will. Yes we have crime but odds are so low I've never considered defending myself by shooting someone. It would end me up in the slammer and I don't want to be raped. Not a good alternative. Lol .

Are things that bad down there that you have such a need?
(Ya, I 've heard the constitution stance but I still don't get the obsession)

Not afraid of being flamed here because I know you won't try and shoot me ! It will end you up in jail where you will get raped instead of me. Lol!

Besides , Too many other things to worry about when riding. Wouldn't want to worry about a gun going off as well.

Ummmm....Lets see here...The folks up north believe or profess that our country is a lawless place. I have never been inclined to look up crime stats for your country...can only guess they are not much better as people are people world wide. The people in the US are in love with their guns because it is a "right" here. Many will tell you it is to protect you from the government. The problem I have with C.C. permits is the same I have with weekend classes that give you a MC license! Passing neither class makes you proficient doing either one.... I see it all the time..." I got my license, lets go to NC and ride in the mountains, I hear it is beautiful... They come back in a bag or hurt a lot of the times...Same w/ C.C. you pass a 12 hour course, go out a buy a pocket cannon and you are on the prowl !!! Both of these types scare me, either one can and will get you killed!!!. I feel the same about both as well as training...there needs to be more! The MC guy is easy, you just pass him and hope Jesus is watching...the C.C. guy a little different.... I have never been in a situation where one of these guys used their weapon but have read of a few...Zimmerman and the old fool at the movie theater come to mind. Z was/is just an idiot, IMHO...doing something he should/should not have been doing got in over his head and someone is dead. I do believe he was justified in killing the kid,,,,,, but..... if you could ask Z if he had it to do over would he have turned the other way and got coffee? The retired PO at the movie is another story... verdict is still out on that one....
For me, prior to my 4X bypass considered myself a weapon. Not to brag, but there has been a lot of $$$ spent teaching me to hurt people and if necessary kill them. Having said that the optimum word here is trained! No 8 hour class, but years of experience doing it!!! Now after the 4X bypass, my fighting days may be over, may be time to buy a gun, shoot first and ask questions later???? For me, the average guy caring a gun scares me. I don't know of their training or ability, when it gets real bad are they going to help the situation or make it worse? All food for thought, is it your right? Absolutely!! Should you be caring one...hope you never find out.