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    Cool Its not the hours, its not the effort, it is the RESULTS !

    The Democrats are right, there are two Americas. The America that works, and the America that doesn’t. The America that contributes, and the America that doesn’t. It’s not the haves and the have nots, it’s the dos and the don'ts. Some people do their duty as Americans, obey the law, support themselves, contribute to society, and others don't. That’s the divide in America .
    It’s not about income inequality, it’s about civic irresponsibility. It’s about a political party that preaches hatred, greed and victimization in order to win elective office. It’s about a political party that loves power more than it loves its country.
    That’s not invective, that’s truth, and it’s about time someone said it.
    The politics of envy was on proud display a couple weeks ago when President Obama pledged the rest of his term to fighting “income inequality.” He noted that some people make more than other people, that some people have higher incomes than others, and he says that’s not just. That is the rationale of thievery.

    The other guy has it, you want it, Obama will take it for you. Vote Democrat. That is the philosophy that produced Detroit .
    It is the electoral philosophy that is destroying America. It conceals a fundamental deviation from American values and common sense because it ends up not benefiting the people who support it, but a betrayal.

    The Democrats have not empowered their followers, they have enslaved them in a culture of dependence and entitlement, of victim-hood and anger instead of ability and hope. The president’s premise – that you reduce income inequality by debasing the successful – seeks to deny the successful the consequences of their choices and spare the unsuccessful the consequences of their choices. Because, by and large, income variations in society is a result of different choices leading to different consequences. Those who choose wisely and responsibly have a far greater likelihood of success, while those who choose foolishly and irresponsibly have a far greater likelihood of failure. Success and failure usually manifest themselves in personal and family income. You choose to drop out of high school or to skip college – and you are apt to have a different outcome than someone who gets a diploma and pushes on with purposeful education. You have your children out of wedlock and life is apt to take one course; you have them within a marriage and life is apt to take another course. Most often in life our destination is determined by the course we take.
    My doctor, for example, makes far more than I do. There is significant income inequality between us. Our lives have had an inequality of outcome, but our lives also have had an inequality of effort. While my doctor went to college and then devoted his young adulthood to medical school and residency, I got a job in a restaurant. He made a choice, I made a choice, and our choices led us to different outcomes. His outcome pays a lot better than mine. Does that mean he cheated and Barack Obama needs to take away his wealth? No, it means we are both free men in a free society where free choices lead to different outcomes.
    It is not inequality Barack Obama intends to take away, it is freedom. The freedom to succeed, and the freedom to fail. There is no true option for success if there is no true option for failure. The pursuit of happiness means a whole lot less when you face the punitive hand of government if your pursuit brings you more happiness than the other guy. Even if the other guy sat on his arse and did nothing. Even if the other guy made a lifetime’s worth of asinine and short-sighted decisions.
    Barack Obama and the Democrats preach equality of outcome as a right, while completely ignoring inequality of effort.
    The simple Law of the Harvest – as ye sow, so shall ye reap – is sometimes applied as, “The harder you work, the more you get."
    Obama would turn that upside down. Those who achieve are to be punished as enemies of society, and those who fail are to be rewarded as wards of society. Entitlement will replace effort as the key to upward mobility in American society if Barack Obama gets his way. He seeks a lowest common denominator society in which the government besieges the successful and productive to foster equality through mediocrity. He and his party speak of two Americas, and their grip on power is based on using the votes of one to sap the productivity of the other. America is not divided by the differences in our outcomes, it is divided by the differences in our efforts.
    It is a false philosophy to say one man’s success comes about unavoidably as the result of another man’s victimization.
    What Obama offered was not a solution, but a separatism. He fomented division and strife, pitted one set of Americans against another for his own political benefit. That’s what socialists offer. Marxist class warfare wrapped up with a bow. Two Americas, coming closer each day to proving the truth to Lincoln ’s maxim that a house divided against itself cannot stand.
    "Life is ten percent what happens to you and ninety percent how you respond to it."

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    Man, I stirred up the tire thread all I could recently,,,

    Are ya feeling like a little yourself?


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    Exactly ....
    And tell me what happens to our great nation when the don'ts exceed the do's?
    How long will the do's keep doing until they stand up and say enough is enough?

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    One thing I've been noticing, particularly among the uneducated crowd (obviously), is that new "rights" seem to be created at will. They don't understand the difference between a privilege and a right, and that their behavior can certainly cause them to be denied that privilege.

    Further, Rights that actually exist in the Constitution get bastardized far more often than I recall from days gone by. Right to associate and protest? Sure. Right to associate and protest in the middle of the street and block traffic? Uh, no.

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    just imagine

    imagine this place in fifty more years.........all these dumbed down idiots..........what a piece of shit this country is turning into.....stupid beyond beliefe......

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    Socialist, liberal, left wing radicals and just plain lazy and "gimme a hand out"people are driving this great country into ruin and most are to stupid to realize what is going on...Why folks listen to this Democrat "BS" and the lies and deceit they produce is beyond me!!! As a friend of my once said.."The Masses are ASSes"......

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    Steve you bring up some good points. And F6B I think the dont's have already exceeded the do's. Steve I'm not even sure its safe to say vote republican. I have traditionally leaned that way but they are as screwed up as the Dems. I just lean toward conservatives , people with family values and more of a median income. Washington is sooo out of touch. They have no idea how bad it is. The best solution I have is to get rid of them all. We get the quarterly reports of economic growth. Give me a break. This country is going downhill at an alarming rate. We need leaders with vision , someone that can make the hard choices , someone that's not afraid to hurt someone's feelings and someone that has the balls to say no. I say a barrel of oil for a bushel of corn. Let's see those Arabs eat that sand. We feed the world yet our farmers struggle. Let's see how mighty Russia"s army and China"s army is without food. This country does s piss poor job of marketing our assets. We give them away. The rest of the world prospers while we suffer. Thank our leaders for that. We are no longer feared or respected as a nation. We need leaders like Ronald Reagan.............hell its hard to think of another good one in the last 50 years. I'm not even sure the Republicans have a viable presidential candidate. I pray that someone will step forward. Chuck Norris? Steven Seagal? You guys how what I mean. I have just about give up. Not quite , but almost. I don't know about you but I'm tired of pulling the wagon by myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotrod View Post


    Man, I stirred up the tire thread all I could recently,,,

    Are ya feeling like a little yourself?

    Wellllllll I was growing tired of the CT back and forth !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by F6B1911 View Post
    Exactly ....
    And tell me what happens to our great nation when the don'ts exceed the do's?
    How long will the do's keep doing until they stand up and say enough is enough?
    I,Me...thinks the next civil war in this country will be throwing the bums out of the wagon, They now number 52%. I also am tired of politics in general, all 535 are idiots blaming the other side when they are in power....IF our leader had let the "Big" companies fail we would have had a chance to fix this, but NOOOOOOO...but that is another story. The "I deserve" crowd is what is killing the USA and until WE stop filling their hands nothing will change. We can start with our own children. Both of mine owe me money, at times a lot of money. I was keeping a ledger but have thrown it away as I was the only one concerned! One called about a month ago and "needed" more money...I said you still owe me money and have made no effort to pay it back sooooo the money train has stopped. When you pay me back I will consider helping you in the future! By the way this is OUR fault...we gave our kids to much for to little in return. I, for one have put a stop to it.... it is time for them to grow up!!!
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    Hey, Shooter! I'm with you 100% on your post #7. What seems to be taking place is people focusing on what is "fair" vs what is "right". For example, someone might say, "It's not fair you make more money than I do" or, "It's not fair you have a nicer car than I do", etc., etc. The left is all about "fairness" rather than what is "right". End of rant (for now).
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