Slayer and Hornblower, that was what I was looking for. Been dancing with the Valk for six years, and ten on the big sabres (UJM's, not the customs). Didn't want to find out the hard way what was next. I've gotten the impression from the motorcycle mags that there is not too much shaft jaking with the wings, the sabre was pretty bad with that. Learned to trail the rear brake a bit on entrance and decel with the sabre which helped with the squatt, even through acceleration on exit which kept her from standing up and running wide. When you pushed the Valk she could get a little flexy in the frame. Always loved strafiing some gixr mounted poser on the Valk.