Some good points here... (Oops, someone mentioned guns ?)

[terrydj]

If you subtract the gun deaths in Detroit, New York, New Orleans, Oakland, and L.A.(all liberal havens) you will find the USA is in the bottom half of all countries for gun deaths.

So true most likely 40 from the bottom. In fact I think just below Iraq
But what about the rest????????

Gun Murders
Alabama 135
Alaska 19
Arizona 232
Arkansas 93
California 1,257
Colorado 65
Connecticut 97
Delaware 38
District of Col 131
Florida 669
Georgia 376
Hawaii 7
Idaho 12
Illinois 364
Indiana 142
Iowa 21
Kansas 63
Kentucky 116
Louisiana 351
Maine 11
Maryland 293
Massachusetts 118
Michigan 413
Minnesota 1 53
Mississippi 120
Missouri 5 321
Montana 12
Nebraska 32
Nevada 84
New Hampshire 5
New Jersey 246
New Mexico 67
New York 517
North Carolina 286
North Dakota 4
Ohio 310
Oklahoma 111
Oregon 36
Pennsylvania 457
Rhode Island 16
South Carolina 207
South Dakota 8
Tennessee 219
Texas 805
Utah 22
Vermont 2
Virginia 250
Washington 93
West Virginia 27
Wisconsin 97
Wyoming 5

[53driver]

Terry - where did that list come from? I would lie to cite it in a doc.
Thanks.

[Limoles]

http://www.statista.com/statistics/1...e-us-by-state/

2014 NOT accounted yet - still under investigations

[terrydj]

Terry - where did that list come from? I would lie to cite it in a doc.
Thanks.

Mate when I went to school you couldn't site Wikipedia but here is the Link
Bloody scary to me is all the fools that own guns but can"t shoot
Mate your ex/military and you know how important it is to pull the trigger and hit what your shooting at
I'm ex infantry Australia and you know we hit what we aim at
Just so sad so many fools with guns?????

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vio...tates_by_state

[taxfree4]

Say what you want about the Mafia but they ran a clean operation. No street corner shootouts hitting innocent bystanders like these spray and pray a-holes. You never had a body most of the time except for the boss, but that was to send a message. Clean, quiet and no mess people just evaporated, it was a respectable operation, we used to call it the Mafia Retirement Plan in the neighborhood. You wouldn't see somebody for a while and you would run into a friend and say "Have you seen Joe Tick?". The other guy would go "No" then you look each other and go "Ooooh". Great book to read "Murder Machine" about a bar in the neighborhood by me.

[53driver]

Mate when I went to school you couldn't site Wikipedia but here is the Link

Thanks mate, and I still don't cite it. Not credible, for entertainment value only.

[terrydj]

Thanks mate, and I still don't cite it. Not credible, for entertainment value only.

So true
That's how I view American Gun Laws
The right to bear arms that they all rave on about allowed for Protestant citizenry to "have Arms for their Defense suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law?
Me thinks that must mean that if your not a protestant then you don't have the right to bear arms????????
But then again that Bill of rights has had amendments added to it I think?????
So maybe it now includes every religion and even those that don't have a religion????
Yeap your right mate
For entertainment purposes only

[Jimmytee]

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[taxfree4]

Great website, lots of stories of self defense:

http://gunssavelives.net/