Contemplating F6B Purchase -- Advice Needed!

[XHarley]

So the Sales Manager just called to negotiate on the used 2013 F6B Deluxe... He said that the guy who had traded the bike in was one of their very loyal customers who had bought many bikes from them in the past, and had traded his 2013 F6B in for a brand new 2015 F6B. Based on all of that, the sales manager claims he gave the guy $13K in trade. However, he did say that since he had just taken the bike in a few days ago, and understands that he's not likely to sell it for a high price while there were leftover 2013s around, he was willing to sell it to me for what he had into it ($13K total price).

I'm not sure that I totally believe him, but he may have shown the other guy $13K for his and then charged full price for the 2015...

So anyway, now I have all the facts at my disposal: Leftover new 2013 F6B non-Deluxe for $14999 out the door (plus tax/title/license) or used 2013 F6B Deluxe (7K miles, Throttlemeister throttle lock, nice highway pegs) for $13K out the door (plus TTL).

I know Unsub was pretty hard over that I shouldn't offer more than $12K for the used bike, but I have to say that I'd probably be better off in most ways with the used one at $13K. In terms of future trade-in value, both bikes would be pretty identical (or the Deluxe would be a bit higher), since miles don't seem to play into the trade-in equation very much. In terms of quality of the bike, I think the Deluxe model wins simply due to the extra features (heated grips, self-canceling turn signals, center stand, etc.), and it appears that the previous owner really babied the bike. By the time I equipped the new/leftover 2013 with a center stand, passenger backrest, and highway pegs I'd be up to around $15,800...

Or I could just throw caution to the wind and buy a new 2015 F6B Deluxe for around $19,500 (or thereabouts)...

Decisions, decisions...

To add to your decision making process here is an Ebay listing that I had been watching that ended this evening. Thirty bids and didn't even hit $13K or the reserve price so that can help indicate where the market is and this was a 2013 Black Deluxe with only 2,293 miles on the clock. I think that you should be able to use this information with your dealer to negotiate that $12K price on the used bike with 7K miles. Good luck on your purchase and ride safe.

X

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Honda-G...p2047675.l2557

[VP8]

Rick, I think the sales manager is feeding you a line of . That is the line they feed when they know you know what it's worth, but are eager to get on a F6B. They will say they added accessories to it, or new tires, or appreciated the value of the bike for a "loyal" customer. I've traded all my bikes before, and I too was a "loyal" customer for one of the dealers. I've never received more than low Blue Book... even if the bike was "babied.". When I traded in my Victory, my dealer made a ton off all the warranty work I had done as well as all the service intervals. I even had two more years left on the extended warranty. I was just looking for low Blue Book to get rid of it because I was tired of the unreliability. Even though the dealer knew me, he offered me slightly below Blue Book because I had over 25,000 miles on the bike and claimed there are manufacture rebates offered which brings the price down on new bikes.

Like others have said Rick, get what you really want, otherwise you will always look back and think, "Dam...I wish I would have purchased the _____.". If you want the 2015, save up for it and get it. If you don't care and just want a great bike for a great value, don't cave in at $13K. He's already making money at a $12K offer and he gets to make room for more inventory. PLUS, the red ones tend to be a little harder to sell than the black ones. Be patient... check online like others have. There will be more F6Bs popping up for sale, both new and used as more 2015s hit the floor. Let the sales manager sweat it out... you gave him an offer already. Tell him you are a buyer actively looking. If you find a used '13 B elsewhere, you will take your money elsewhere. He knows your number, he will call you when the used B sits on the floor for a while... while it continues to depreciate.

[Limoles]

My local dealer DOESN'T WANT to take for trade any bike . He knows , that selling used one can be a challenge - specially in winter . Offering new bike , he always keep saying : "I got just one in this month and few guys are interested already " ... Small dealer , but he moves his inventory well.

In your dilemna and in case of buying used F6B , I'd rather look for private sale to avoid unnecessary profit of 3rd party.

If decided to buy new one , you've got CRUISE , 2 years younger : battery and tires and attractive colors .

[bigdawg]

Rick, I think the sales manager is feeding you a line of . That is the line they feed when they know you know what it's worth, but are eager to get on a F6B. They will say they added accessories to it, or new tires, or appreciated the value of the bike for a "loyal" customer. I've traded all my bikes before, and I too was a "loyal" customer for one of the dealers. I've never received more than low Blue Book... even if the bike was "babied.". When I traded in my Victory, my dealer made a ton off all the warranty work I had done as well as all the service intervals. I even had two more years left on the extended warranty. I was just looking for low Blue Book to get rid of it because I was tired of the unreliability. Even though the dealer knew me, he offered me slightly below Blue Book because I had over 25,000 miles on the bike and claimed there are manufacture rebates offered which brings the price down on new bikes.

Like others have said Rick, get what you really want, otherwise you will always look back and think, "Dam...I wish I would have purchased the _____.". If you want the 2015, save up for it and get it. If you don't care and just want a great bike for a great value, don't cave in at $13K. He's already making money at a $12K offer and he gets to make room for more inventory. PLUS, the red ones tend to be a little harder to sell than the black ones. Be patient... check online like others have. There will be more F6Bs popping up for sale, both new and used as more 2015s hit the floor. Let the sales manager sweat it out... you gave him an offer already. Tell him you are a buyer actively looking. If you find a used '13 B elsewhere, you will take your money elsewhere. He knows your number, he will call you when the used B sits on the floor for a while... while it continues to depreciate.

Actually, the sales manager wasn't feeding anyone a line of bull____. I am the loyal customer who takes meticulous care of their motorcycles and have purchased many bikes from that dealer and received exactly $13,000 for my immaculate 2013 red deluxe F6B. I don't see a single word of deception from the dealer in anything I have read. Congratulations on your new purchase Rick. I think you made the right choice. The only reason I traded in my 2013 was for the factory electronic cruise control. I'm loving my metallic blue color too. By the way, I imagine I live just down the road from you since I live in LaVista.

[Riknchar]

Actually, the sales manager wasn't feeding anyone a line of bull____. I am the loyal customer who takes meticulous care of their motorcycles and have purchased many bikes from that dealer and received exactly $13,000 for my immaculate 2013 red deluxe F6B. I don't see a single word of deception from the dealer in anything I have read. Congratulations on your new purchase Rick. I think you made the right choice. The only reason I traded in my 2013 was for the factory electronic cruise control. I'm loving my metallic blue color too. By the way, I imagine I live just down the road from you since I live in LaVista.

BigDawg: That's so funny that you chimed in on this thread! I should have thought to ask the forum if it was one of our members who traded in the 2013 Deluxe to Dillon! That confirms that Dillon did right by you (and did not lie to me).

They really did treat you right by giving you $13K for your 2013 (especially with all the leftover '13's around). Did they cut you a decent deal on the purchase price for your new 2015 also? So you ended up with the Blue one? I love that color also -- almost looks purple in some light! I nearly bought a leftover 2014 Valkyrie in that color before I decided to throw caution to the wind and buy a new F6B. Did you get another Deluxe, or did you stick with the Base model this time?

I'm glad to be joining the F6B family! Can't wait for the weather to warm up so I can head out on a long ride!

[bigdawg]

Yes I got another deluxe. No matter what I'm buying I always seem to prefer the most expensive option! It's a sickness I cope with unsuccessfully Yes, they always give me a great deal since I have purchased so many bikes from them and bring all of my bikes there for service. I think I'm there almost as much as some of the employees! When I walk in everyone calls me by name. I feel like Norm from the old TV show Cheers when he would walk into the bar. I also purchased a blue valkyrie from them recently and knew I would love to have that color on the F6B. Honda puts a clear coat on their metallic paint so this metallic blue paint should hold up better than the paint on the older F6B models, although I didn't really notice much of an issue with the red paint that others did.

FYI, I also had them transfer a lot of my stuff from my old bike to the new bike like the taller windscreen, fog lights, luggage rack, Ultimate seat, GPS mount, etc., so my new bike is already set up perfect for me. I left the chrome highway pegs with the old bike since I thought black pegs would go better with the black muffler. I also put a Superbrace on the front forks of the new one and it makes a surprisingly big difference in the handling. Much less front wheel wobble you may notice when going over bumps. I highly recommend it. You are going to love this bike, especially when you get it set up to fit you. If you are interested in anything I have put on my bike you are welcome to take a look at mine before you order yours.

[Riknchar]

Yes I got another deluxe. No matter what I'm buying I always seem to prefer the most expensive option! It's a sickness I cope with unsuccessfully Yes, they always give me a great deal since I have purchased so many bikes from them and bring all of my bikes there for service. I think I'm there almost as much as some of the employees! When I walk in everyone calls me by name. I feel like Norm from the old TV show Cheers when he would walk into the bar. I also purchased a blue valkyrie from them recently and knew I would love to have that color on the F6B. Honda puts a clear coat on their metallic paint so this metallic blue paint should hold up better than the paint on the older F6B models, although I didn't really notice much of an issue with the red paint that others did.

FYI, I also had them transfer a lot of my stuff from my old bike to the new bike like the taller windscreen, fog lights, luggage rack, Ultimate seat, GPS mount, etc., so my new bike is already set up perfect for me. I left the chrome highway pegs with the old bike since I thought black pegs would go better with the black muffler. I also put a Superbrace on the front forks of the new one and it makes a surprisingly big difference in the handling. Much less front wheel wobble you may notice when going over bumps. I highly recommend it. You are going to love this bike, especially when you get it set up to fit you. If you are interested in anything I have put on my bike you are welcome to take a look at mine before you order yours.

So you have both a Valkyrie AND an F6B??? And I thought I was spoiled ;-) Nice deal!

I did notice the highway pegs on your old 2013 -- they look extremely useful, but I agree that the black ones will look better on the 2015. The Throttlemeister was a nice touch, also, but the electronic cruise control is WAY better obviously. I may need your advice on a few options as I start "Farkling" up my new ride. Thanks!

[bigdawg]

I put 1000 miles on the valkyrie and tried to make it into a long distance bike like I do with all my bikes. Unfortunately, I thought the tall windscreen, highway pegs, passenger backrest and luggage rack ruined the lines and cool look of the bike and I still had wind buffeting my head. I traded it in for a new blue BMW K1600 GT. Fantastic motorcycle. In fact it is because of the BMW's electronic cruise control that I decided to get the 2015 F6B. That's also the reason I got the Superbrace, because it was obvious riding the 2 bikes back to back that the front forks of the F6B needed a bit more stability.