Cleveland baby dies in accidental shooting

[stroguy]

It would be pretty difficult to ban water sports activities and prescription meds, which both have a positive purpose for society.

Handguns? Positive purpose? I don't think so.

No positive purpose, really? none....whatsoever? OK.

What if I told you I get just as much fun and freedom and satisfaction from going to the range as I do from water skiing?

We don't have to ban watersports, just personal swimming pools and have mandatory swimming training and life vests supplied to all citizens and no swimming without lifeguards.

Handguns have no positive purpose? Are you sure?

If I go for stroll down to the park and I hear a 300# thug with a knife is raping your daughter would you prefer me to have a phone and standby, a stick or my handgun?

[jkelley]

[QUOTE=stroguy;72224]

It would be pretty difficult to ban water sports activities and prescription meds, which both have a positive purpose for society.

Handguns? Positive purpose? I don't think so. /QUOTE]

No positive purpose, really? none....whatsoever? OK.

What if I told you I get just as much fun and freedom and satisfaction from going to the range as I do from water skiing?

We don't have to ban watersports, just personal swimming pools and have mandatory swimming training and life vests supplied to all citizens and no swimming without lifeguards.

Handguns have no positive purpose? Are you sure?

If I go for stroll down to the park and I hear a 300# thug with a knife is raping your daughter would you prefer me to have a phone and standby, a stick or my handgun?

Dude, you are wasting your time. You cant convince some they are wrong. and you cant make sense out of a tragedy.

I am a shooter like a lot of folks on here, but some are clearly not. I do believe in the right to own a firearm, but I also believe there is a great responsibility that comes along with it. For a child to die because some asswhipe does not have the common sense to properly store and secure a weapon is totally unacceptable and he should be charged. Further there are a great many that should not have guns either, Just not enough grey matter between their ears. But they do. I enjoy my guns, and believe no one has the correct answers for all situations.

[racer]

The point is:

There is great responsibilty required in gun ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in pool ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in prescription drug ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in property ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in auto ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in potentially dangerous pet ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in parenting.

There is great responsibilty required in protecting our loved ones and property from those who would harm us.


Sometimes things go awry and accidents happen. We all need to be responsible for supervising our children, securing our dangerous items and keeping our loved ones safe.

[hoglaw]

In other news...more than 325 million guns in America did not kill anyone yesterday.

[Bill1584]

The point is:

There is great responsibilty required in gun ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in pool ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in prescription drug ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in property ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in auto ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in potentially dangerous pet ownership.

There is great responsibilty required in parenting.

There is great responsibilty required in protecting our loved ones and property from those who would harm us.


Sometimes things go awry and accidents happen. We all need to be responsible for supervising our children, securing our dangerous items and keeping our loved ones safe.

Yes sir. Exactly right. Sober, responsible ownership and management. Really, this is part of the enjoyment in my opinion. Well said.

[stroguy]

Thanks Bill. I am in no way trying to change anyone, then I become as bad as the uninformed that use false narratives. It's just as easy for me to walk next door and slaughter my neighbor with my machete than my revolver. If I have no respect for a fellow citizen or a mental instability then the weapon matters not. Taking away guns doesn't change my misuse of drugs, my proclivity to crime or just my desire to hurt someone. If it's in there, it's in there.

I shoot at SGA every Thursday evening in a class. I try to go to ranges at dead times (no pun intended) because there are some careless gun owners and some of them show up at the range. I applaud them for training but they can be a bit unnerving. Shooting at the Spring Gander Mountain is a very safe range. Never made it to Bayou Rifles. My class instructor is a long range shooting nut and builds high performance rifles as his business.

Nice to meet you Bill.

[salane972]

And what the H### does all of this have to do with the F6?

[hoglaw]

And what the H### does all of this have to do with the F6?

It's in the Off-topic forum, and it's off-topic.

[shooter]

And what the H### does all of this have to do with the F6?

11 posts and you're an expert. OTE=Off Topic Experiment. F6B is the topic of the forum. We are Off The Topic. Totally legal.

[stroguy]

Exactly right jk. My point is again back at the OP that has this mentality that ALL GUN BAD JANE. I will not sit by as naive people try to instill guilt on me. Again I go back and ask why will nobody take claim for the huge drop in violent crimes in the US. Not a dem, a repub, not a prez, not the NRA............nobody. Gun ownership is at an all time high, violent crime is down. I will not be the fool that equate the two. I am a full time believer that it is 99.9% cultural. Australia has massive restrictions on gun ownership, has that solved their violent crime rate? NO.

And the biggest what if of all time is....if the U.S. were to ban handguns and the manufacture of same that all handguns would go away? You would be fool to say yes. Brazil......large maker of handguns. Austria......large maker of handguns. Italy......large maker of handguns. Russia...same. Would we be idiots to think the U.S. could keep those guns out?