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    With the development of anti lock and linked breaks how long before there will be only one control operating both breaks on motorcycles? The Motorcycle Safety Foundation teaches maximum breaking efficiency is achieved by applying both breaks to a point just below locking up.

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    When pulling the front brake lever, is the rear brake activated at an equal or lesser level than the front? If the front lever is pulled hard at high speed, will rear end still flip up like a non-linked system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidk View Post
    When pulling the front brake lever, is the rear brake activated at an equal or lesser level than the front? If the front lever is pulled hard at high speed, will rear end still flip up like a non-linked system?


    Ummm,When pulling the front break lever the back brakes with a less amount of power. Not sure what you are asking about the flipping up... I have not had the back raise for any reason...This phat girl is to big for rump twerking !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 0080 View Post
    Ummm,When pulling the front break lever the back brakes with a less amount of power. Not sure what you are asking about the flipping up... I have not had the back raise for any reason...This phat girl is to big for rump twerking !!!
    When just a small tike, my dad told me that if I use the only the front brakes my bicycle will flip ass over tea kettle over the front wheel. Same applies to motorcycles. My question is if I use the front brakes only, will the linked breaks prevent that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidk View Post
    When just a small tike, my dad told me that if I use the only the front brakes my bicycle will flip ass over tea kettle over the front wheel. Same applies to motorcycles. My question is if I use the front brakes only, will the linked breaks prevent that?

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    "... the linked braking system providing impressive power. Pressure from its three-piston calipers is firm and steady without being grabby while providing great feel to riders at the lever. Honda's Combined Braking System, with three-piston calipers front and back, has a second master cylinder and a three-stage proportional control valve (PCV) to operate the calipers in tandem. The front runs dual floating 296mm discs, and a good squeeze on the front brake lever activates the outer two pistons of the front right-side caliper and the center piston of the front left-side caliper while the secondary master cylinder and an inline proportioning valve activate the outer two pistons of the rear caliper. The rear brake pedal operates the center piston of the rear brake caliper, the center piston of the front right-side brake caliper and the outer two pistons of the front left-side caliper. It is the kind of system where riders get a good sense of the calipers biting into the disc when they squeeze the brake lever and feel the effects of smooth, even braking. Honda accomplishes this without much dive in the fork, the 45mm cartridge unit sporting an anti-dive system while utilizing the same internals, damping and springs as the Gold Wing. ..."
    Squeeze the front and you also get some rear brake, push the rear pedal and you also get some front brake. The amount of pressure changes how much.

    When learning to ride on my CB350 long ago I found that the bike will fall out from underneath you when you're on gravel and hit that front brake. Even going slowly,..uphill. A relatively painless lesson that I carry with me to this day.

    Personally I wish they'd made the rear brake only operate the rear brake. The linked system makes low speed maneuvering using the clutch friction zone/rear brake drag method a bit more difficult.
    It's much easier on a non-linked system. With the F6B I can feel the front end diving, working against me when using it.
    It's about my only complaint with Hondas, not a deal killer, wouldn't trade the B for any bike.

    Did some emergency braking practice this weekend, OMG on dry asphalt this thing stops like a champ. I was expecting less but got more. I don't understand all of the physics of contact patches and all that, she didn't break free and it seems like she stopped quicker than any of my previous bikes. Is this possible?

    David, feel free to use the front brake on dry roads that are free of sand and gravel and you're not on road stripes, tar snakes, or expansion joints (sheesh, did I miss anything?!). I normally activate both front and rear unless road conditions dictate otherwise. Just remember, when applying front or back singly, you're still applying a degree of the other. If you're in worst case conditions for slipping and have time to prepare for stopping just skip the brakes and coast to a stop if possible. You can use engine braking but the rear can still break free if that is applied to quickly or is trying to slow you down too quickly for the limited traction. (this would truly be a worst-case condition; ice, oil spill, etc).

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