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    Ok, I'll ask, why not have them change the final drive oil? I'm assuming cause you are doing it yourself? Is there any reason not to change it at 4k?

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    I don't believe the final drive oil needs to be changed for awhile. Just oil and filter and general look over for the most part. Valves should be checked at 16k somewhere in there is brake/clutch fluid but that's quite a while too. Very low maintenance machine for sure one of the reasons I love them.
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    My dealer also through my bike on the computer to check for error codes. Probably a good idea to have it done at the first service.

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    Leave rear end alone until 25K... I think ... check manual.... it has moly in it and needs to stay the recommended time... other that that... I would change oil every 5K . air filter at 25 and ride the dam thing !!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve 0080 View Post
    Leave rear end alone until 25K... I think ... check manual.... it has moly in it and needs to stay the recommended time... other that that... I would change oil every 5K . air filter at 25 and ride the dam thing !!!!!
    +1. Don't touch the rear end. And your dealer should know this!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian D View Post
    +1. Don't touch the rear end. And your dealer should know this!!!
    Unfortunately your statement that "The Dealer Should Know This" is a "ASSUMPTION" They are in the business of selling motorcycles and then offering 600 mile "early oil changes" at exorbitant prices. Most if not all of the mechanics working at cycle dealerships never look at the Factory Owners/Service Manual. Your lucky to even see a "torque wrench" when visiting a service bay. That, in itself, is a indication of the technical competence of those entrusted to work on your machine. Ask me how I know

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    Thanks everyone. Pretty much what I thought. I knew the rear end is not touched until at least 20K, wasn't sure about the air filter. And Bob, your post is the reason I asked. I wanted to be certain as I am not comfortable assuming they know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wmorgan2k View Post
    I don't believe the final drive oil needs to be changed for awhile. Just oil and filter and general look over for the most part. Valves should be checked at 16k somewhere in there is brake/clutch fluid but that's quite a while too. Very low maintenance machine for sure one of the reasons I love them.
    I believe the first valve check is at 32,000 miles. At least that's what I remember without referencing my owner's manual....

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    4000 service

    Clean - Crankcase breather. Service more frequently if mostly riding in rain or full throttle.
    Replace - Oil and Filter then Honda recommends every 8000 miles or 12 months
    Inspect - Engine Idle Speed
    Inspect - Brake Fluid. Honda recommends replacing every 2 years.
    Inspect - Brake Pad Wear
    Inspect - Clutch Fluid. Honda recommends replacing every 2 years.

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    Well, I'm glad(mostly) that I took it to a dealer, rather than doing it myself. I get a call, and this dealer, I guess they inspect the airbox/air filter via camera probe first, rather than digging all the way into it, and they give me the news that "you've got a in your airbox my friend".
    They cleaned out the airbox and had to replace the filter, which they showed me the old one and the bottom of it was pretty well chewed. Glad I took it to the dealer, as I probably would not have bothered @ 4,800mi trying to make my way to the air filter if I had done the oil change myself.

    Not so glad I took it to the dealer because they changed my final drive oil. I asked them about it when I saw it on the work detail and they said they always change it out "just to be safe". He said it was dirty and stinky and looked like "ground up graphite was mixed in with the oil". Was that the moly? Or debris from the gears? I can't be the only person with this bike whose final drive oil was changed out before the recommended 20K, is there any worry for the long-term having done so? I made only a minor fuss about it when I was there, should I have made a bigger deal out of it? At least my final drive oil should be topped-off.....The real sour part is the $380 hole it torched in my wallet.....

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