I've had good use out of my 888. If course like everybody I've been in the rain with it several times. To me the 888 is as good as the 880 was. Guys we all know the dangers of riding in the rain. Some of it is common sense. I've seen guys riding in the grooves on the hwy when it was raining. That's where the water is the deepest. Foolish. I don't care what tire you have you can hydroplane. You just have to slow down.