Has anyone seen a video before and after for the motorcycle tire/car tire

[willtill]

This is the article that convinced me:

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/...-rim-tire.html

I read that article as well; it has been posted on this board in another past discussion. The inability of the C\T's bead to mechanically "lock" into the bead well of the M\C wheel...

...seems to be the glaring reason for it; to blow up and crash and burn ...and wimmen to shriek; children to cry, and grown men to shake in fear.

But they don't ...as attested to by some very knowledgeable members here running them; and living, breathing, real world factual evidence that a "failure" has not materialized to date.



Man cannot fly!!! If man was meant to fly; God would've given him a car tire...!

Who said dat?

[bob109]

Coming from a Mechanical and Quality background I'll throw this out for consumption, digestion and debate.

Every owner of a motor vehicle or motorcycle is in effect a "Test Pilot" for tires! Be it MCT or CT with each revolution of the tire, the user is subjecting the tire to "destructive testing". Like it or not it's a fact! What road surfaces tires are subjected to, speeds driven, load rates, corners encountered, overall riding style etc. etc. all contribute to wear and eventual tire replacement. Some due to premature failure i.e. nail puncture, thread/tread separation. In the QUALITY WORLD such things as "Cradle to Grave Tracking", "Mean Times Between Failures " and "Statistical Process Control" are but a few of the measurements which provide "facts" to those "In the Know". Nothing is taken for granted and all aspects of Destructive Testing are closely monitored. Without measurable, accurate and verifiable data all else is but conjecture. Unfortunately the M/C Tire Manufactures and Cycle Dealerships do little but to criticize the "Dark Side" practice for fear of "lost sales". Until such time that a comprehensive study clearly investigates the merits of the Dark Side Practice the pro/con argument will linger and fester. I choose and run the Dark Side by my own free will. So accustomed to the ride characteristics of a CT, I find a MT as too neutral and prefer the "feedback" of the CT. Handling, extended mileage wear, reduced costs, smoother ride and excellent traction/tracking in the rain are measurable parameters which I find acceptable and quantifiable. Along with "tire casing sectioning" I personally take great efforts to capture all elements of my DS experiences.

[MisterB]

Nice post Bob, it tickles my bias confirmation!
I have no technical pedigree to add to this conversation but I get the feeling that although the CT to MC rim connection is not optimal it is sufficient for normal operation.
Maybe a MC tire would hold air better in extreme under-inflation state during pothole impacts?
Regardless, the long and impassioned arguments against CT use would suggest instant failure or at least some failure, right?
Perhaps a moderator could check to see if DS riders are simply disappearing from the forum and not relating their failures because they've been burned to a crisp.
I'm still looking for a tractor tire that will fit the F6B. Maybe an aircraft landing gear tire?

[shooter]

I'm thinking a fork truck tire with foam in it. In stead of a run flat it will be a no flat.

[bob109]

Nice post Bob, it tickles my bias confirmation!
I have no technical pedigree to add to this conversation but I get the feeling that although the CT to MC rim connection is not optimal it is sufficient for normal operation.
Maybe a MC tire would hold air better in extreme under-inflation state during pothole impacts?
Regardless, the long and impassioned arguments against CT use would suggest instant failure or at least some failure, right?
Perhaps a moderator could check to see if DS riders are simply disappearing from the forum and not relating their failures because they've been burned to a crisp.
I'm still looking for a tractor tire that will fit the F6B. Maybe an aircraft landing gear tire?

If my memory serves me right there has been a larger loss of "Dark Side Nay Sayers" on our Forum than actual Dark Siders. Those with the constant negativity about Dark Siding appear to have "culled" themselves from the herd. I have a directive in my will to be "cremated" but the Dark Side has yet to contribute to my"flaming demise"! With just shy of 100K miles of CT riding under my a$$ I should have been flamed numerous times over according to the critics. It's probably just luck

Ride Safe

bob109

[Wing'n it]

I have done it on my 02 Goldwing and put over 10k mile on a Kumho tire and it never showed much wear. My new 15 F6 had 4k miles on the stock tires and the rear was wearing flat across the tread. So I purchased another black rear rim and on went another CT. This time a Bridgestone run flat and the only trick is finding the sweet spot for air pressure, other than that you would be hard pressed to tell the difference if you didn't look at it. To each his own on the subject and I won't try to convince anyone to do it but I will offer up my findings on the subject. Best I can say is to get a rim and a tire of choice and give it a go. Having another rim lets you change back easily if your not happy and somebody will absolutely buy your CT and rim from you.

[stepbill]

I just went darkside last week. Am using the Michelin Alpine and the only time that I can tell a difference is when I'm slowing do to a stop on a crowned road as the bike wants to lean towards the slope. I just go to the right and have no problems. So far I love the tire and will not change back. I still scrape the pegs with no problem and with the Alpine, you do not have to force it down, it leans naturally! As others have said, I decided to try it and believe that I will stay!

[Penguin]

Many years ago when Big Dog Motorcycles broke onto the scene, they were using a huge rear car tire. Ultimately they had many law suits filed claiming the bikes wouldn't turn because of the wide flat tire.

[Maddoggie501]

The one time I ran into a gentleman riding a Goldwing with a rear car tire, and he started telling me how great it was, I just walked away. I'm sorry, no need to have a conversation with a gentleman who spent 30K on a Goldwing and decides to save money by putting car tires on it. Lets rock and roll in the twisties and we will see how good that car tire really is. Hell, go buy a trike if you love car tires. Sorry, just venting.

[willtill]

The one time I ran into a gentleman riding a Goldwing with a rear car tire, and he started telling me how great it was, I just walked away. I'm sorry, no need to have a conversation with a gentleman who spent 30K on a Goldwing and decides to save money by putting car tires on it. Lets rock and roll in the twisties and we will see how good that car tire really is. Hell, go buy a trike if you love car tires. Sorry, just venting.

You can do everything with a car tire, as you can with a motorcycle tire. What's the issue?