So I won't say anything at all, its an opinion and you know what they say about opinions. I myself personally would never put a car tire on my motorcycle but that's just me and I let the world do any stupid thing they want.
So I won't say anything at all, its an opinion and you know what they say about opinions. I myself personally would never put a car tire on my motorcycle but that's just me and I let the world do any stupid thing they want.
Living in Pa. my cycle requires a yearly State Safety Inspection. Once completed by a Authorized Repair Center/Garage, a Inspection Sticker is affixed to the cycle/vehicle. I carry a copy a copy of the Pa. Motorcycle Safety Inspection Criteria in my saddle bag. The Criteria clearly states that the vehicle has to be equipped with a DOT Approved Tires on DOT Approve Rims. My Rear General G-Max Car Tire is a DOT Approved Tire as is the DOT Approved F6B Rear Wheel. There is not a single sentence/article in the Inspection Criteria indicating MC or CT. Adding to the Big Picture, Trikes be they Gold Wings, Harley's, T-Rex and the new Polaris Sling Shot are all equipped with a "mix" of Cycle/Car Tires or in the case of the Sling Shot/T-Rex all Car Tires. All of the fore mentioned are registered as MC/Motor Cycles on the "Owner's Card". That said, the issue of car tire use being a factor in a "denied insurance claim" wouldn't "hold water" IMHO
+1Originally Posted by bob109
Living in Pa. my cycle requires a yearly State Safety Inspection. Once completed by a Authorized Repair Center/Garage, a Inspection Sticker is affixed to the cycle/vehicle. I carry a copy a copy of the Pa. Motorcycle Safety Inspection Criteria in my saddle bag. The Criteria clearly states that the vehicle has to be equipped with a DOT Approved Tires on DOT Approve Rims. My Rear General G-Max Car Tire is a DOT Approved Tire as is the DOT Approved F6B Rear Wheel. There is not a single sentence/article in the Inspection Criteria indicating MC or CT. Adding to the Big Picture, Trikes be they Gold Wings, Harley's, T-Rex and the new Polaris Sling Shot are all equipped with a "mix" of Cycle/Car Tires or in the case of the Sling Shot/T-Rex all Car Tires. All of the fore mentioned are registered as MC/Motor Cycles on the "Owner's Card". That said, the issue of car tire use being a factor in a "denied insurance claim" wouldn't "hold water" IMHO
The guy who invented the first wheel was an idiot -
the guy who invented the second one... he was the genius!
http://theringfinders.com/blog/Larry.Royal/
This is the article that convinced me:Living in Pa. my cycle requires a yearly State Safety Inspection. Once completed by a Authorized Repair Center/Garage, a Inspection Sticker is affixed to the cycle/vehicle. I carry a copy a copy of the Pa. Motorcycle Safety Inspection Criteria in my saddle bag. The Criteria clearly states that the vehicle has to be equipped with a DOT Approved Tires on DOT Approve Rims. My Rear General G-Max Car Tire is a DOT Approved Tire as is the DOT Approved F6B Rear Wheel. There is not a single sentence/article in the Inspection Criteria indicating MC or CT. Adding to the Big Picture, Trikes be they Gold Wings, Harley's, T-Rex and the new Polaris Sling Shot are all equipped with a "mix" of Cycle/Car Tires or in the case of the Sling Shot/T-Rex all Car Tires. All of the fore mentioned are registered as MC/Motor Cycles on the "Owner's Card". That said, the issue of car tire use being a factor in a "denied insurance claim" wouldn't "hold water" IMHO
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/...-rim-tire.html
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I read that article as well; it has been posted on this board in another past discussion. The inability of the C\T's bead to mechanically "lock" into the bead well of the M\C wheel...
...seems to be the glaring reason for it; to blow up and crash and burn ...and wimmen to shriek; children to cry, and grown men to shake in fear.
But they don't ...as attested to by some very knowledgeable members here running them; and living, breathing, real world factual evidence that a "failure" has not materialized to date.
Man cannot fly!!!If man was meant to fly; God would've given him a car tire...!
Who said dat?
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Coming from a Mechanical and Quality background I'll throw this out for consumption, digestion and debate.
Every owner of a motor vehicle or motorcycle is in effect a "Test Pilot" for tires! Be it MCT or CT with each revolution of the tire, the user is subjecting the tire to "destructive testing". Like it or not it's a fact! What road surfaces tires are subjected to, speeds driven, load rates, corners encountered, overall riding style etc. etc. all contribute to wear and eventual tire replacement. Some due to premature failure i.e. nail puncture, thread/tread separation. In the QUALITY WORLD such things as "Cradle to Grave Tracking", "Mean Times Between Failures " and "Statistical Process Control" are but a few of the measurements which provide "facts" to those "In the Know". Nothing is taken for granted and all aspects of Destructive Testing are closely monitored. Without measurable, accurate and verifiable data all else is but conjecture. Unfortunately the M/C Tire Manufactures and Cycle Dealerships do little but to criticize the "Dark Side" practice for fear of "lost sales". Until such time that a comprehensive study clearly investigates the merits of the Dark Side Practice the pro/con argument will linger and fester. I choose and run the Dark Side by my own free will. So accustomed to the ride characteristics of a CT, I find a MT as too neutral and prefer the "feedback" of the CT. Handling, extended mileage wear, reduced costs, smoother ride and excellent traction/tracking in the rain are measurable parameters which I find acceptable and quantifiable. Along with "tire casing sectioning" I personally take great efforts to capture all elements of my DS experiences.
Nice post Bob, it tickles my bias confirmation!
I have no technical pedigree to add to this conversation but I get the feeling that although the CT to MC rim connection is not optimal it is sufficient for normal operation.
Maybe a MC tire would hold air better in extreme under-inflation state during pothole impacts?
Regardless, the long and impassioned arguments against CT use would suggest instant failure or at least some failure, right?
Perhaps a moderator could check to see if DS riders are simply disappearing from the forum and not relating their failures because they've been burned to a crisp.
I'm still looking for a tractor tire that will fit the F6B. Maybe an aircraft landing gear tire?
I'm thinking a fork truck tire with foam in it. In stead of a run flat it will be a no flat.
If my memory serves me right there has been a larger loss of "Dark Side Nay Sayers" on our Forum than actual Dark Siders. Those with the constant negativity about Dark Siding appear to have "culled" themselves from the herd. I have a directive in my will to be "cremated" but the Dark Side has yet to contribute to my"flaming demise"! With just shy of 100K miles of CT riding under my a$$ I should have been flamed numerous times over according to the critics. It's probably just luck
Ride Safe
bob109
The one time I ran into a gentleman riding a Goldwing with a rear car tire, and he started telling me how great it was, I just walked away. I'm sorry, no need to have a conversation with a gentleman who spent 30K on a Goldwing and decides to save money by putting car tires on it. Lets rock and roll in the twisties and we will see how good that car tire really is. Hell, go buy a trike if you love car tires. Sorry, just venting.
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