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    Quote Originally Posted by motozeke View Post
    And back in Realityland, who is ever going to check their net worth before deciding whether or not to wear a helmet? Most blokes don't even check their tire pressure.

    Mandatory helmet laws is one of the easiest ways to save lives and unnecessary injury, at the minuscule cost of depriving people of the option of making a dumbass decision about whether or not to wear a helmet.
    Reality-land? As in California? Y'all so used to having Pelosi and Feinstein make your choices for you, you surely have forgotten what having a choice actually is. Starbucks or Dunkin'? Hmmm.

    Everyone knows if they have proper medical coverage/mishap insurance - in fact, in part thanks to those two elected clowns - it is MANDATORY now. You do, or you get fined.

    If you want a "mandatory" statute, how about a mandatory MSF course before one can be licensed to ride a motorcycle? And then perhaps follow-on courses get a mandated insurance reduction?

    OBTW, I ALWAYS wear a Full Face helmet because I agree that the risk isn't worth the benefits - but it is my educated, informed choice which I shall advocate to others, but not force upon them.
    This isn't a Socialist country - yet - in spite of many elected officials' actions.

    Food for thought: how many "minuscule costs" are taken before liberty is eroded?
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    That "orb' which resides on ones shoulders is a precious and fragile thing. The ability to use it is a gift beyond comprehension. There are enough calamities throughout life that can harm/injure the contents and quickly turn that orb into a useless container. Many years ago I certified as a EMT (Emergency Medical Technician). Not long after, I was on a ambulance run responding to a cycle accident. Having the first hand opportunity to observe a victim laying on the hard ground with the content of their skull weeping from their nostrils and ear canals has left a indelible mark in my mind and on my soul. More profound was the fact that I knew the victim and his family. Helmets are cheap....heads and their contents are priceless. It's not hard to understand why Emergency Room Doctors and Nurses are the biggest supporters of "Helmet Laws". The great thing about choice is to "connect that choice to reason". That requires tiny grey brain matter and neurons to communicate. Having that precious cargo strewn over some highway or curbstone can quickly and permanently sever all connections

    Ones choice to become a "Ward of the State" and be on "Life Support" with no "Living Will" or "Advanced Directive" is a personal choice. It's unfortunate that they have passed that responsibility of "when to finally pull the plug" on family

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob109 View Post
    That "orb' which resides on ones shoulders is a precious and fragile thing. The ability to use it is a gift beyond comprehension. There are enough calamities throughout life that can harm/injure the contents and quickly turn that orb into a useless container. Many years ago I certified as a EMT (Emergency Medical Technician). Not long after, I was on a ambulance run responding to a cycle accident. Having the first hand opportunity to observe a victim laying on the hard ground with the content of their skull weeping from their nostrils and ear canals has left a indelible mark in my mind and on my soul. More profound was the fact that I knew the victim and his family. Helmets are cheap....heads and their contents are priceless. It's not hard to understand why Emergency Room Doctors and Nurses are the biggest supporters of "Helmet Laws". The great thing about choice is to "connect that choice to reason". That requires tiny grey brain matter and neurons to communicate. Having that precious cargo strewn over some highway or curbstone can quickly and permanently sever all connections

    Ones choice to become a "Ward of the State" and be on "Life Support" with no "Living Will" or "Advanced Directive" is a personal choice. It's unfortunate that they have passed that responsibility of "when to finally pull the plug" on family
    Well put. Having another human die in your arms is never forgotten.
    Everyone should have a living will or Advanced Directive - especially if you engage in potentially deadly recreational activities like motorcycling, parachuting, or even commuting on the 95 or 405 in a cage.
    Don't make it harder on those you leave behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53driver View Post
    Food for thought: how many "minuscule costs" are taken before liberty is eroded?
    I'd be satisfied with the government telling me I have to wear a helmet (which would be dumb and incredibly irresponsible for me to disobey anyway). I see that as a zero threat to liberty.

    On the other hand, this is the same government with forfeiture laws enforced by local police forces to their own benefit (read up on this if you haven't; it will make your blood boil), that reads our emails and text messages, that snoops on our phone calls, strip searches us at airports, tells us what drugs we can and cannot take, and who we can and cannot marry.

    I think the libertarian agenda should have many more and bigger fish to fry before working its way down to helmet laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motozeke View Post
    I'd be satisfied with the government telling me _____?????_______. I see that as a zero threat to liberty.
    Where do you draw the line? And at what point do you actively object?

    Quote Originally Posted by motozeke View Post
    On the other hand, this is the same government with forfeiture laws enforced by local police forces to their own benefit (read up on this if you haven't; it will make your blood boil), that reads our emails and text messages, that snoops on our phone calls, strip searches us at airports, tells us what drugs we can and cannot take, and who we can and cannot marry.
    I agree wholeheartedly. And yes, it pisses me off to no end.

    Quote Originally Posted by motozeke View Post
    I think the libertarian agenda should have many more and bigger fish to fry before working its way down to helmet laws.
    Maybe it does. I am not a "Libertarian" by label or marque. I do firmly believe that "less gov't" is better than more.
    When the traffic on the DC beltway is no longer congested, I'll take that as a sign the gov't is getting its own act under control.
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    If one does not like living in the USA and its Government intrusions in your life, try living in China, North Korea, Russian or the Middle East for a while and then decide what is the best place to be....!!!..I don't like the way our Government operates very much either, but it beats the "crap" out of most other countries to make our lives somewhat easier...JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by opas ride View Post
    If one does not like living in the USA and its Government intrusions in your life, try living in China, North Korea, Russian or the Middle East for a while and then decide what is the best place to be....!!!..I don't like the way our Government operates very much either, but it beats the "crap" out of most other countries to make our lives somewhat easier...JMHO
    Thanks Opas! Agree totally, and.........if you don't like it, then get out. I think there are thousands and thousands doing everything they can to get here.

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    Well, looking at the topic of the thread from the OP................................................ ........................................




    Helmet or No Helmet, Not a debate! A simple do you wear always or sometimes.
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    I wear a full face all the time. Its mandatory here in NY but I wear it everywhere, regardless of its required or not. I did have a time in my life in TX where I did not wear unless I had to go on base where they were mandatory. I understand those who choose not to wear but for me its just too obvious that it really saves lives...... plus its lightweight, great in the rain, has great visibility, and is pretty quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Ryder View Post
    Well, looking at the topic of the thread from the OP................................................ ........................................

    Helmet or No Helmet, Not a debate! A simple do you wear always or sometimes.
    A topic without a debate? Not happening.

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