Pirelli Centurato P1 Runflat

[Monk]

Inside for the right handers and outside for the left handers !!!


You will not be able to tell anything!

The report I got on the tire was exactly that!!

My big interest is the fact that it only weights in at 21 pounds rather than the 25 for a Michelin Alpin. That can make a big difference when running the twisties. The lighter weight increases the fun factor.

[ths61]

The report I got on the tire was exactly that!!

My big interest is the fact that it only weights in at 21 pounds rather than the 25 for a Michelin Alpin. That can make a big difference when running the twisties. The lighter weight increases the fun factor.

Do you have all-right-turn twisties ?

Seriously, will the bike have a tendency to track right or left with an asymmetric tread pattern ?

[Monk]

Do you have all-right-turn twisties ?

Seriously, will the bike have a tendency to track right or left with an asymmetric tread pattern ?

Everything I've been told about the tire, tells me I will not notice anything.

In the next 10 days I will be putting 1,500+ miles on the tire. If I notice a problem I will report back. But, I really don't expect that.

[Hornblower]

Everything I've been told about the tire, tells me I will not notice anything.

In the next 10 days I will be putting 1,500+ miles on the tire. If I notice a problem I will report back. But, I really don't expect that.

Notice that all posters with negative opinions have never run this kind of tire. I've been running the ZE912 Falken with great results which just shows what happens when you assume something. Here are the characteristics of that tire:

• Hybrid-Asymmetric Pattern Design – Optimized inside and outside tread patterns to ensure all-season grip on demand

• Infinite Sipe Sequence – Full-depth sipes throughout the entire tread platform creating biting edges that dramatically increase traction in all seasons

• Rotation Wear Indicators (RWI) – Falken engineered visual cues that help the driver maximize tire life and overall tire value, prompting regular tire maintenance

• Four High-Volume Circumferential Grooves – Designed to deliver increased hydroplane resistance and maximum stability in wet conditions

• High Angle Variable Cross Grooves – In inclement weather conditions, these grooves effectively evacuate water away from the contact patch

This tire has been phenomenal in wet or dry conditions. I would recommend it without reservation.

[Monk]

Notice that all posters with negative opinions have never run this kind of tire. I've been running the ZE912 Falken with great results which just shows what happens when you assume something. Here are the characteristics of that tire:

• Hybrid-Asymmetric Pattern Design – Optimized inside and outside tread patterns to ensure all-season grip on demand

• Infinite Sipe Sequence – Full-depth sipes throughout the entire tread platform creating biting edges that dramatically increase traction in all seasons

• Rotation Wear Indicators (RWI) – Falken engineered visual cues that help the driver maximize tire life and overall tire value, prompting regular tire maintenance

• Four High-Volume Circumferential Grooves – Designed to deliver increased hydroplane resistance and maximum stability in wet conditions

• High Angle Variable Cross Grooves – In inclement weather conditions, these grooves effectively evacuate water away from the contact patch

This tire has been phenomenal in wet or dry conditions. I would recommend it without reservation.

I'm trying to get as close to the benefits of a tire like the 912 and still have the safety of a runflat.

[Hornblower]

I'm trying to get as close to the benefits of a tire like the 912 and still have the safety of a runflat.

I can appreciate that. I've also used run flat tires before and it is nice not having to worry about small nails or screws ruining you trip. Now that I'm running a non-run flat, I do now carry a plug kit and compact air compressor, just in case. AFAIK, about the only drawback of the run flat is weight so if I find a really good one, I may go back to that in the future. Until then, I already have my next Falken mounted on a spare wheel and ready-to-go.

[bob109]

I can appreciate that. I've also used run flat tires before and it is nice not having to worry about small nails or screws ruining you trip. Now that I'm running a non-run flat, I do now carry a plug kit and compact air compressor, just in case. AFAIK, about the only drawback of the run flat is weight so if I find a really good one, I may go back to that in the future. Until then, I already have my next Falken mounted on a spare wheel and ready-to-go.

With a conventional radial tire (non-run flat) and Ride-On Tire Balancer/Sealant there is no difference in thread/tread puncture protection IMHO. The ability to continue to use the tire after a puncture is the same The added benefit of a stiff sidewall and more MC Tire like ride achieved with lower air pressure (sweet spot) of course, is not the same as a softer 1 ply side-walled conventional tire. Therein lies the real difference.

I'm anxious to see this tire after 25/30K miles of wear and specifically what the tire edges look like! The wear characteristics should be interesting

[shooter]

Notice that all posters with negative opinions have never run this kind of tire. I've been running the ZE912 Falken with great results which just shows what happens when you assume something. Here are the characteristics of that tire:

• Hybrid-Asymmetric Pattern Design – Optimized inside and outside tread patterns to ensure all-season grip on demand

• Infinite Sipe Sequence – Full-depth sipes throughout the entire tread platform creating biting edges that dramatically increase traction in all seasons

• Rotation Wear Indicators (RWI) – Falken engineered visual cues that help the driver maximize tire life and overall tire value, prompting regular tire maintenance

• Four High-Volume Circumferential Grooves – Designed to deliver increased hydroplane resistance and maximum stability in wet conditions

• High Angle Variable Cross Grooves – In inclement weather conditions, these grooves effectively evacuate water away from the contact patch

This tire has been phenomenal in wet or dry conditions. I would recommend it without reservation.

Ken I didn't see any negative comments all I saw was questions. I did say that it wasn't for me and I stand by that. I don't see that as being negative. I don't know much about tires having only sold thousands of them over the last 27 years. I can tell you that I've attended dozens of tire seminars in that time that were put on by Goodyear , Michelin , Bridgestone/Firestone , Dunlop , Comtinental and Pirelli. I can tell you that all these manufacturers specify that when you mount a non-symmetrical that the sidewall marked inside or outside expressly goes in that position. The tire manufacturers say that the inside of a non-symmetrical tire is not designed to lead into a curve. See that's it Ken. There is design aspect to that tire and I guarantee you in certain scenario's that tire will not perform the same on those two edges. More rubber , less siping , different tread design all together. If you think those elements don't make a difference then run a slick and let me know how that works. Like I said , its not for me.

[Hornblower]

Ken I didn't see any negative comments all I saw was questions. I did say that it wasn't for me and I stand by that. I don't see that as being negative. I don't know much about tires having only sold thousands of them over the last 27 years. I can tell you that I've attended dozens of tire seminars in that time that were put on by Goodyear , Michelin , Bridgestone/Firestone , Dunlop , Comtinental and Pirelli. I can tell you that all these manufacturers specify that when you mount a non-symmetrical that the sidewall marked inside or outside expressly goes in that position. The tire manufacturers say that the inside of a non-symmetrical tire is not designed to lead into a curve. See that's it Ken. There is design aspect to that tire and I guarantee you in certain scenario's that tire will not perform the same on those two edges. More rubber , less siping , different tread design all together. If you think those elements don't make a difference then run a slick and let me know how that works. Like I said , its not for me.

That's fine, Shooter. I don't remember naming you specifically as being negative. Be that as it may, what do I know without selling thousands of tires as you have? What I do know is simply this...the fastest riders I personally know and I, myself, have been running this non-symmetrical tire for the past couple of years with complete success. In fact, it has outperformed any symmetrical tire I have run previously. So, call me stupid but it is working for me and that's all I really care about.

[shooter]

I don't remember calling anyone stupid Ken. As I said before it was mostly questions being asked. Which is normal when you see something new or out of the norm. I'm glad it works for you. But like I said I still question the difference in the inside and outside design of the tread. Nothing wrong with asking questions. Last time I checked that's how we learn.