Don't get me wrong, I rode Harleys for nearly 20 years before I bought the F6B. I was a pirate for several years, but I was never a Harley snob, I would ride with anyone who wanted to ride. The Honda Goldwing is by far the most superior street /touring bike I have ever owned. Unless some other bike company comes out with something better than a Goldwing I'm a Goldwing owner for life.