Theory about oil. NOT A DEBATE

[Bdog]

Me and some friends were sitting around discussing different types of oil. As everyone that rides motorcycles do. And we all came to the same conclusion about Honda brand oil and Harley brand oil. Since neither company have their own oil refinery,(as for as we know),they must have to buy their oil from someone else. We determined that company was whoever sold it to them at the lowest price, low bid. I'm sure there is a lot of room here for us to be wrong and someone here could give me the facts I could share with the fellas.

[shooter]

No sir. You are exactly right. Its just like Motorcraft oil or Delco filters. When I worked for GM years ago we had barrels of oil from Mobil , Shell , Valvoline , Pennzoil , Quaker State and Havoline in the house.

[bob109]

If your were presented with six one quart containers of oil, made by different producers, with the front label covered and only the rear container info available with the API Logo/Seal, you would be interested in two things which the API Logo contains........Weight and Non-Energy Conserving statement. Thats it! No fuss, ado or argument on which too choose other than the two items mentioned. If all six containers have that basic requirement, all would meet or exceed your motors requirement as defined in the "Owner's Manual" There are but a few Refineries who produce oil for the likes of Harley, Honda, Suzuki etc. etc. They would not necessarily be defined as "Cycle Specific", merely "Motor Oils"

Those who claim they use "Cycle Specific Oil" only apparently never drove a cycle prior to these "mystery oils" being available These oil are a product of the P.T. Barnum School of Marketing

[Old Ryder]

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/


Be sure you have a lot of time available when you start.

[taxfree4]

I have long been using Brian's oil and gas treatment in my car and motorcycle. He does not have a shopping cart on his website as you must talk to him directly and give him the year, make and model of your vehicle. He formulates the oil mixture specifically for the vehicle. My buddy used his oil and gas treatment on his Screamin Eagle from new, broke down the motor at 40K still had the crosshatch. He also manufactures sodium free coolants; bottom line the guy knows his stuff, very knowledgeable.

http://bndautomotive.com/about/

[willtill]

\thread


..before it crosses the Rubicon.

[BIGLRY]

Me and some friends were sitting around discussing different types of oil. As everyone that rides motorcycles do. And we all came to the same conclusion about Honda brand oil and Harley brand oil. Since neither company have their own oil refinery,(as for as we know),they must have to buy their oil from someone else. We determined that company was whoever sold it to them at the lowest price, low bid. I'm sure there is a lot of room here for us to be wrong and someone here could give me the facts I could share with the fellas.

I believe Exxon-Mobil(XOM) was Honda's supplier for its bottled oil products for years, cages & MC both then XOM lost its contract to ConocoPhillips(COP) in 2010.
COP, as you may know, also happens to be the supplier of Ford Motor Company's bottled oil products under the brand name Motorcraft. If you return to bobistheoilguy.com and search the Virgin Oil Analyses, you will see that the analyses of Honda Genuine Motor Oil, both the synthetics and the semi-synthetics (Part#s 9036 and 9037), are virtually identical to their Ford Motorcraft counterparts.