Pretty much dead on for me as well after this last week in AR. Charlie and myself did the AR123 to Mount Judea Friday. On the way to MJ we were passed by a few crazy beemer mountain bikes that the B just could never hang with on that road. On the return I pressed the B harder than the venture in. I eventually caught one of the 408 HD variants. I didn't want to press the HD, I wanted him to enjoy the ride, so I didn't ride him hard. The pace he set was fine with my. But it was instantly apparent that the B would smoke this HD in any condition on that road. I could out accelerate him, out turn him, out scrape him. I am only an average rider of the B after seeing some of our better drivers last week. But those 3 days made it abundtly clear that me and others made the right decision over any HD. The HD give a good show but the B gives you show and GO!