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    Please continue this thread. The JBL upgrade was great. But thinking of taking the B to a custom audio shop to get more ideas. I like the feature of a stock stereo controls on the bars, so an amp that could tap into the oem system, then run new gauge wire to speakers , and a removable sub is what id like. Please more info. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiochris90 View Post
    Please continue this thread. The JBL upgrade was great.... I like the feature of a stock stereo controls on the bars, so an amp that could tap into the oem system, then run new gauge wire to speakers , and a removable sub is what id like. Please more info. Thanks.
    Well, that's exactly what you get!

    The beauty of this solution is you keep your handlebar controls. In fact, you continue using the stock system like you always have, except it kicks ass depending on where you mount the remote, you have a sleeper radio system. No one looking at my bike parked would know.

    You don't have to modify the speakers to fit, you only need a riser plate so the rare earth magnet the size of the whole stock speakers (slight exaggeration , but not far off) will not bottom out. The stock grill cover fits on with minimal trimming.

    It is easy, and you have no external crossover to deal with - it is all handled by the amp. You simply run 4 wires to left, 4 to right. 14 guage - two for mid bass, two for tweeter. The tweeters epoxy to the stock tweeter position. I have sone final fit and finish to work out, but that's the gist of it.

    Btw, I nearly won a loud stereo competition at pickleheads.. Goat deejay from full throttle Sturgis voted my rig was the clearest / no distortion with the best bass against many custom bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pressorv View Post
    Well, that's exactly what you get!

    The beauty of this solution is you keep your handlebar controls. In fact, you continue using the stock system like you always have, except it kicks ass depending on where you mount the remote, you have a sleeper radio system. No one looking at my bike parked would know.

    You don't have to modify the speakers to fit, you only need a riser plate so the rare earth magnet the size of the whole stock speakers (slight exaggeration , but not far off) will not bottom out. The stock grill cover fits on with minimal trimming.

    It is easy, and you have no external crossover to deal with - it is all handled by the amp. You simply run 4 wires to left, 4 to right. 14 guage - two for mid bass, two for tweeter. The tweeters epoxy to the stock tweeter position. I have sone final fit and finish to work out, but that's the gist of it.

    Btw, I nearly won a loud stereo competition at pickleheads.. Goat deejay from full throttle Sturgis voted my rig was the clearest / no distortion with the best bass against many custom bikes.
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    After listening to JimmyTee's and Pressorv's bikes at the rally, I will state that you both have done a lot of work and created awesome sound systems. It prompted me to start researching more realistic options for my sound as I have neither the time nor the inclination to attempt your levels. I have already replaced the stock speakers twice, first with J&M and now with the JBL set everyone discussed, but would like a little more without breaking the bank or losing a saddlebag.

    I ran across this article during my initial search and wonder what anyone's thoughts are.

    http://www.wssdriveeasy.com/gold-win...udio-upgrades/

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    Quote Originally Posted by F6Pilot View Post
    After listening to JimmyTee's and Pressorv's bikes at the rally, I will state that you both have done a lot of work and created awesome sound systems. It prompted me to start researching more realistic options for my sound as I have neither the time nor the inclination to attempt your levels. I have already replaced the stock speakers twice, first with J&M and now with the JBL set everyone discussed, but would like a little more without breaking the bank or losing a saddlebag.

    I ran across this article during my initial search and wonder what anyone's thoughts are.

    http://www.wssdriveeasy.com/gold-win...udio-upgrades/
    This is the same article I found and was going to buy the arc amp. The pro audio place said it was a great amp, (specs looked good} and they go for about 300 if you shop around. My tech knew this installer and called him to discuss, they both said that was top of the line five years ago. The bass enhancement is similar to the head unit's build in boost (the off, low, high setting on your tune knob.)

    The speakers with an amp is, imho, the best option for a best cost/performance ratio. I mentioned this setup in my original post above, although to be fair the speakers listed are a step down and is not a large cost savings.

    The speakers don't require any fitting/ cuts, but you will need a half inch spacer to fit the magnet. I'm sure you would be happy with the setup.

    Another option is to get the Audison prima 4.9 amp and save a few hundred on the amp. I would suggest not removing the stock amp and use the high level inputs instead, otherwise you need to get the controller as well. I'm working with the manufacturer to see if they can provide a firmware update to remove this requirement.

    I can help you set up the amp / share the config. I'm also investigating manufacturing the riser needed to seat the speaker.

    Finally, to be fair, if you get the prima 8.9, you don't need the second amp or the subwoofer. You can even fit the amp under the seat and not lose any saddlebag space!

    {wrote on my cell phone in a hurry, forgive my spelling and grammatical errors..)

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    I'm sold on those Hertz speakers. Any ideas for a "budget" 2 channel amp? No plans on running a sub. Need to keep stock controls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncsrule21 View Post
    I'm sold on those Hertz speakers. Any ideas for a "budget" 2 channel amp? No plans on running a sub. Need to keep stock controls.
    the Arc Audio amp is considered top-tier from about five years ago and a strong contender today. It has a circuit that helps sub-bass be 'reproduced' using harmonics that you can try switching on, although I myself would not use it. It is similar to the SRS bass boost already on the F6B albeit better. It is 70 watts RMS per channel and a decent match, albeit at the lower end.

    The Audison drives 130watts for the woofer and 130watts for the tweeter, so it's a significant improvement in power and is a vastly superior solution. Don't let the complexity of the Audison concern you, I will be happy to program the unit and wiring notes.
    I actually listened to classical music on the way home at 80MPH. I can't say it was like being at the symphony hall, but it was reasonable considering.


    I am considering offering to install the whole setup or only program the amp configured & "dialed-in" to your tastes (music type, hearing needs,etc)
    ould there be any interest? If so, send me a PM. I may reach out to the dealers and see about a group buy or discount.
    PS - do not be afraid of the youtube video related "Poor Design" - the video apparently was complaining the unit was causing interference with his head-unit
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    Quote Originally Posted by pressorv View Post
    This is the same article I found and was going to buy the arc amp. The pro audio place said it was a great amp, (specs looked good} and they go for about 300 if you shop around. My tech knew this installer and called him to discuss, they both said that was top of the line five years ago. The bass enhancement is similar to the head unit's build in boost (the off, low, high setting on your tune knob.)

    The speakers with an amp is, imho, the best option for a best cost/performance ratio. I mentioned this setup in my original post above, although to be fair the speakers listed are a step down and is not a large cost savings.

    The speakers don't require any fitting/ cuts, but you will need a half inch spacer to fit the magnet. I'm sure you would be happy with the setup.
    While I see the merits of the Audison Prima, I don't think I will go that far up the food chain. I may move forward with the Arc if that is the best candidate in that price range. Speaker wise, I believe you are indicating the HSK 130 is the route to take. This is all french to me and I absolutely appreciate you sharing you knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F6Pilot View Post

    I ran across this article during my initial search and wonder what anyone's thoughts are.

    http://www.wssdriveeasy.com/gold-win...udio-upgrades/
    That shop is not too far from me....


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