Time for new tires

[pilotguy299]

Okay, other than being cheap & getting a zillion miles out of a car tire, what's the other "real" reasons for using one?
I ain't buying better ride & handling, a car tire is designed to carry several times the weight of a MC & ride flat, with 3 more helping it to roll & track in a straight line. Better ride & handling, I think not.

There are arguments on both sides of this issue on why or why not to do it. I did an awful lot of reading 5 years ago before putting a goodyear triple tread on my VTX1300R. The "pros" cited by people had already gone dark side, just seemed to outweigh the "cons" proposed by people who never tried it. I have yet to read anywhere about a car tire on a motorcycle actually causing any of the issues the naysayers were proposing.

Now it may be because in all of those incidents the people actually died in a big ball of flame, and were never able to report their accident. But I'm not convinced of that.

In my own experience the ride is smoother on straightaways, provides significantly better braking on dry & wet roads, lasts much longer, takes a bit more to get in to a turn, but takes a lot less to get the bike back upright and stopped.

And to be completely honest, I find that I ride a lot more aggressively - even in the turns - than I do on a motorcycle tire. I just feel that much more comfortable and capable on the car tire I have. And that's with about 30,000 miles on two different bikes.

Tire selection is important. The GYTT has a pretty squared profile, and took a quite a bit more to get in to a turn. The Brigestone run flat tire I have now is a little more rounded at the edges, and is more MT like in it's handling. And since you're supposed to get the bike upright before braking in a turn, I see that tendency as a huge plus.

And I understand your hesitation to buy in to it. I was skeptical as well.

YMMV

[Shiv]

Okay, other than being cheap & getting a zillion miles out of a car tire, what's the other "real" reasons for using one?
I ain't buying better ride & handling, a car tire is designed to carry several times the weight of a MC & ride flat, with 3 more helping it to roll & track in a straight line. Better ride & handling, I think not.

Why argue with somebody who accuses me of being cheap and already knows without a doubt that it doesn't handle well? My experience has been 8-10K miles on a run flat, some difference in twisties (not worse, different), far better in rain and gravel, and the ability to ride home about 40 miles - two up - with zero air pressure. Your 'experience' ?

Shiv

[Shiv]

There are arguments on both sides of this issue on why or why not to do it. I did an awful lot of reading 5 years ago before putting a goodyear triple tread on my VTX1300R. The "pros" cited by people had already gone dark side, just seemed to outweigh the "cons" proposed by people who never tried it. I have yet to read anywhere about a car tire on a motorcycle actually causing any of the issues the naysayers were proposing.

Now it may be because in all of those incidents the people actually died in a big ball of flame, and were never able to report their accident. But I'm not convinced of that.

In my own experience the ride is smoother on straightaways, provides significantly better braking on dry & wet roads, lasts much longer, takes a bit more to get in to a turn, but takes a lot less to get the bike back upright and stopped.

And to be completely honest, I find that I ride a lot more aggressively - even in the turns - than I do on a motorcycle tire. I just feel that much more comfortable and capable on the car tire I have. And that's with about 30,000 miles on two different bikes.

Tire selection is important. The GYTT has a pretty squared profile, and took a quite a bit more to get in to a turn. The Brigestone run flat tire I have now is a little more rounded at the edges, and is more MT like in it's handling. And since you're supposed to get the bike upright before braking in a turn, I see that tendency as a huge plus.

And I understand your hesitation to buy in to it. I was skeptical as well.

YMMV

You said it way better than I, but you experienced the same things I did. BTW, I am on the 4th one.
Shiv

[pilotguy299]

i dont think we should be argueing about this at all. provide a short thumbnail of what youve experienced and move on. some people have tried it and not liked it, and that's ok. the other downside i forgot to mention is that is does tend to follow ruts more than a mc tire does.

[willtill]

I was a skeptic for many, many, years about C/T's on motorcycles; though over the years becoming an optimistically oriented skeptic (If that is even a understandable phrase) as I studied the phenomena; and finally deciding to try it on my F6B.

http://hondaf6b.com/showthread.php?9...o-the-Darkside

Never, ever going back to a rear motorcycle tire on my F6B. Once dialed in, the car tire functions much better, and for all the right reasons.



The Darkside forum on this site has a lot of useful information. Check it out in totality.