Deadly accident(last time i ride with large group)

[seadog]

Whats the difference between a group of bikers just wanting to get somewhere or a line of cars caught in construction? Say the same behavior happens but with high school kids just trying to get out of their parking lot after school?

You ok with that too?

Its not ok to break the laws set down anywhere and I don't condone their way of operation but it works for them so yes its illegal and no I don't think its right to break laws on the road. I have no clue why they don't get arrested. I road with them once and was just amazed what they got away with and had no trouble with the police. If I was a cop and saw that, they would all have tickets for illegally blocking traffic, running a stop sign and or stop light.

[zeus661]

Its not ok to break the laws set down anywhere and I don't condone their way of operation but it works for them so yes its illegal and no I don't think its right to break laws on the road. I have no clue why they don't get arrested. I road with them once and was just amazed what they got away with and had no trouble with the police. If I was a cop and saw that, they would all have tickets for illegally blocking traffic, running a stop sign and or stop light.

Hey Seadog, just so you know my comment was not directed toward you or anyone else here. Just a point I felt I needed to state in general. Hate to see when someone thinks they can justify breaking the law.

[broncsrule21]

Hey Seadog, just so you know my comment was not directed toward you or anyone else here. Just a point I felt I needed to state in general. Hate to see when someone thinks they can justify breaking the law.

This is why I have never been over 65mph. It is illegal

I avoid groups rides as much as I can. I have the best time by alone, with the wife, or just one other bike. I like to ride at my own pace, pass when needed etc.

[VStarRider]

30,000 miles of riding...about 29,925 of it alone. The one time I rode with another person was my father, a 50 year riding vet. I like riding alone.

With snowmobiles, I almost never ride alone. There's usually 2-4 of us in a group. It's the opposite with the sleds - safer in groups.

[nvmyf6]

Good to hear there were not fatalities, and I hope for a full recovery.

I have ridden with large groups of riders, where blocking traffic did take place.

Here is a perspective on group riding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJlgQjUTXhY

[Steve 0080]

Way to fast for a group ride in my opinion... I am not a fan but if and when I ride in a large group, I am in the very front or very back... to many things can go wrong very fast !!!

[Travelor]

Good to hear there were not fatalities, and I hope for a full recovery.

I have ridden with large groups of riders, where blocking traffic did take place.

Here is a perspective on group riding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJlgQjUTXhY

So what is the difference between your "group" and just a large number of cars wanting to do the same thing? Every ramp and merging process you show happens everyday in heavy traffic areas and the "cagers" deal with it on an individual basis. I guarantee you that if a group of drivers decided that it was "safer" to block an intersection so they could all go through it against cross traffic and you were on a bike being blocked you would blow a gasket. You do not have the right to do any of this, unless Law Enforcement is providing the blocking service to you. And the funeral excuse is nothing more than self justification for the bad selfish behavior. It's bull@#$%T!!

[adventurous1]

+1. I don't condone that behavior at all. Unless you've got LEOs doing the escorting on their official bikes and they are in uniform acting as LEOs, that IS a serious legal matter.

When did 'Peace Officers" become LEO's? Most, if not all, "LEO" personnel know very little about the law.

[xltsport]

Have rode with a group of guys that are from the local honda yamaha shop was a circus.too fast in and out of traffic guys in the back doing stunts like you see in videos. It was almost dark and you couldn't even see the taillights of the ones riding wheelies. No organization riding down the wrong side of the road and what not. And this is the regular Thursday night ride sponsored by this shop. Will never ride with them again.

[53driver]

When did 'Peace Officers" become LEO's? Most, if not all, "LEO" personnel know very little about the law.

Well technically as a retired Officer of Marines, I'm a Peace Officer, but I ain't about to run unapproved escort duty.
Quite obviously from context, when I used the term LEO, I was referring to Police & Sheriff Motorcycle Officers pre-approved and assigned by their jurisdiction as Escort for whatever the event is.
Let's not get so wrapped in the dialectic semantics that we lose the point of the post.
Cheers,
Steve