Quote Originally Posted by stroguy View Post
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It's not science........it's statistics and a 9th grader can do statistics and an adult can skew statistics to fit their DOGMA.

Very curious why nobody in the US wants to take claim for the radical drop in violent crime in the US over the last 25 years........hmmmmmmm. Maybe fear is a tool and fear is used by skewing statistics and hiding facts. In simpler terms they lie......and yes it is in print. So believe what you want to read, I look for facts.
In many , or at least only last few years , 9th graders were shot and killed as well , as mass murders statistics and national outcries are clearly proving that , so dogmatism among self-defenders is worthless .
Claims of majority crimes are also proving , that guns in hands of irresponsible owners , or those who have easy access to it , killed more innocent people , who had "right to defend themselves" , but due to restrictions , they didn't have chances to counter perpetrators , or simply couldn't do it on time.

Following natural instincts , everyone have rights to defend themselves . If American wants to continue ancient traditions of Wild West surviving style of life , it would be "smart" to allow everybody to carry any kind of weapon , including fire arms ( with exception to mentally ill , which are so many anyway ) . Living in unnecessary fear could turn into the Darwinian theory of natural selection , where the only strongest have rights to be and have their "righteous word". It could be not so good idea either , especially taking for consideration weaker individuals .

By the way - in statistics , USA is a world's leader of criminal behavior , caused by dramatic and im-proportional distribution of wealth , luck of family unity leading to habitual deprivation , devastated influences of violent films and electronic games , sexual abuse , collapsed community , complicated interpretation of law , racism , unemployment , mental retardation and ... list can go on and on .

There are the facts , so this is not about believes , but simple estimation of reality , where we live . Some might refuse to understand it , or twist it in political characterization . For them , creative prevention can be non-existal,
so the only known solution is to poses a gun , which "just in case" can be used ( but without any guaranties of survival ) anyway ...

There is also another way - just disarm all society , but it requries much more understanding and work of legislators , who will not protect so many businesses engaged in vast extensions of criminal behavior . But how life could be boring , if first pages of national papers didn't have so many criminal reports , if TV news didn't provide pictures of bloody scenarios , if Americans didn't need to build another prisons , if in mentality , people could convert the inherited fear into the simple normality of life ??? Yes - it still exist !