Originally Posted by
adventurous1
Christ Jesus is the quintessential example if they want you in jail - you're going to jail regardless. On your other points, perhaps yes - perhaps no. Why go to all the hassle of filing Tax docs when it's completely unnecessary - and could be out in the sun riding instead? Everything else is irrelevant, yes? Schiff had no references to go by? I found the SSN is voluntary simply by writing a letter to the SSA. Have to presume Schiff new this waaaaay before my beginnings. So, not sure why he didn't just use that method (perhaps he did, I don't know).
Believe that Hansen guy is doing it the smartest with his website. (for those who are informing the entire nation). It's been well over a decade, and he's never been thrown in jail and his site (or who's ever it actually is) is still up and running. He, himself, sells nothing (apparently). He doesn't deal w/ 'taxpayers' only nontaxpayers. Believe he's also retired from the Navy - or was in the armed services - or I may be way wrong on that and have to read the posted material a little more before I comment. Just at first blush, he seems to be the most thorough of anyone and doesn't go around saying 'taxes are voluntary' - 'you don't have to pay taxes'.
There's no reason for me to access any SS account. Not a concern of mine. I'm bringing in a six figure compensation for labor with 'zero' subtitle A and C tax liability and '0' withheld - and placing 50K a year away in savings. And, why are people mentioning the Constitution in a courtroom? That seems nonsensical - other than asking the court what is the intention of the court (admiralty, equity, common)? And, of course, which definition of the term "United States" is the court and /or Fed prosecutor using?