Utter lawlessness - Kate Steine's illegal alien murderer is acquitted

[Ixol Phaane]

Really! Anyone know some facts? How about the fact that 12 feet from the felon the bullet hit the ground, ricocheted then traveled 78 feet before fatally striking the victim. How about the fact that the gun company has issued recall because when dropped this gun often fires. If felon was rich white guy no trail or national press.

What?! Are you reasonably using logic and rational interpretation of the facts to post a thoughtful response to an obviously emotional outcry for vengeance? What the hell is wrong with you? Why can’t you just fall in line with the mob mentality and demand we exercise vigilante justice against this “illegal”? Next I suppose you’re gonna start ranting about Human Rights as guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights upon which our fine country is built. C’mon... that stuff is only for ‘mericans! OMG!

[ths61]

What?! Are you reasonably using logic and rational interpretation of the facts to post a thoughtful response to an obviously emotional outcry for vengeance? What the hell is wrong with you? Why can’t you just fall in line with the mob mentality and demand we exercise vigilante justice against this “illegal”? Next I suppose you’re gonna start ranting about Human Rights as guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights upon which our fine country is built. C’mon... that stuff is only for ‘mericans! OMG!

Do you really think this was a fair trial (and not a political statement/coverup) in a sanctuary state court system, in a sanctuary state, in a sanctuary city with a liberal defense, liberal judge, liberal prosecution, suppression of evidence, coverup of failed sanctuary polices and liberal agencies that allowed the perp to murder and failure of the liberal prosecutor to present unbiased documented laboratory evidence to debunk the fabricated testimony ?

Where is the justice for murdered Kate Steinle and her family ?

A guilty verdict would have had blow back on the failed sanctuary state policies and politicians as well implicated the agencies that failed to hold the perp for ICE as accessories. There is absolutely no way those parties in the super-majority would be implicated. They are covering their collective azzes while making a political statement at the harm of American citizens.

[Ixol Phaane]

Do you really think this was a fair trial (and not a political statement/coverup) in a sanctuary state court system, in a sanctuary state, in a sanctuary city with a liberal defense, liberal judge, liberal prosecution, suppression of evidence, coverup of failed sanctuary polices and liberal agencies that allowed the perp to murder and failure of the liberal prosecutor to present unbiased documented laboratory evidence to debunk the fabricated testimony ?

Where is the justice for murdered Kate Steinle and her family ?

A guilty verdict would have had blow back on the failed sanctuary state policies and politicians as well implicated the agencies that failed to hold the perp for ICE as accessories. There is absolutely no way those parties in the super-majority would be implicated. They are covering their collective azzes while making a political statement at the harm of American citizens.

That’s a pretty good conspiracy theory ya got goin’ there.

[ths61]

That’s a pretty good conspiracy theory ya got goin’ there.

I see you have your head firmly planted in the sand by not responding to any of the facts.

I suppose you think OJ was innocent as well ? Hint, his civil trial was not able to suppress the evidence that his criminal trial did.

[ths61]

The director of ICE (Thomas Homan) just reported that California refused to hold the illegal alien for ICE pickup for deportation to Mexico. This is a well known fact.

California turned the illegal alien loose on the streets. California's violation of Federal Law facilitated Kate Steinle's murder.

[Ixol Phaane]

The director of ICE (Thomas Homan) just reported that California refused to hold the illegal alien for ICE pickup for deportation to Mexico. This is a well known fact.

California turned the illegal alien loose on the streets. California's violation of Federal Law facilitated Kate Steinle's murder.

ICE tried to pull this crap in Arizona earlier this year, requesting that local law enforcement agencies hold individuals illegally until such time that ICE officers could take custody. Unfortunately for them, it is unconstitutional for a person to be held beyond a specified period of time without being criminally charged. Local law enforcement gave ICE notification for the pending release of detainees, however ICE officials could not be troubled to appear in a timely manner to re-apprehend these individuals.

The Constitutionality of law exists for a reason. No Police State for me, yet...thank you very much.

[Ixol Phaane]

I see you have your head firmly planted in the sand by not responding to any of the facts.

I suppose you think OJ was innocent as well ? Hint, his civil trial was not able to suppress the evidence that his criminal trial did.

Oh, I’m sorry. When you say “facts”, are you referring to that nonsensical garbage that you presented in the form of opinion/editorial in your prior message? This stuff...

Originally Posted by ths61...

”Do you really think this was a fair trial (and not a political statement/coverup) in a sanctuary state court system, in a sanctuary state, in a sanctuary city with a liberal defense, liberal judge, liberal prosecution, suppression of evidence, coverup of failed sanctuary polices and liberal agencies that allowed the perp to murder and failure of the liberal prosecutor to present unbiased documented laboratory evidence to debunk the fabricated testimony?”

Apparently you have trouble distinguishing fact from opinion. Just because something spews across your keyboard from the depths of your brain doesn’t make it factual, no matter how many times you regurgitate it.

If you’re really interested in debating the issues, I’ll go there with you. I could use the entertainment. Bring your substantiated points and cite your sources and lets see what happens.

[willtill]

I've sat on a jury before, and completely understand the limitations placed upon what can be introduced as evidence and what may not be considered when rendering a verdict.

[Ixol Phaane]

I've sat on a jury before, and completely understand the limitations placed upon what can be introduced as evidence and what may not be considered when rendering a verdict.

So you can appreciate the rules of law. They’re not just these arbitrary rules that change on a case to case basis. Obviously we aren’t going to agree with all the rules every time, especially when a case goes the way this one did. But to claim that the rules are unjust and advocate for throwing them out because they don’t suit your purpose today is to risk breaking a system that is meant to serve all, as fairly as possible. If change is required and demanded, the process for change is in place and prescribed... by the Constitution.

I really hate having discussions like this. The rules are the rules, like em or not. Following the rules of law is generally a good thing. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who advocates for the wild west doesn’t truly appreciate the depth and meaning of the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights...nor fully grasps the meaning of the freedoms that those documents guarantee in American society.

And that’s all I have to say about that.

Ride safe. Ride free.

[ths61]

Oh, I’m sorry. When you say “facts”, are you referring to that nonsensical garbage that you presented in the form of opinion/editorial in your prior message? This stuff...

Originally Posted by ths61...

”Do you really think this was a fair trial (and not a political statement/coverup) in a sanctuary state court system, in a sanctuary state, in a sanctuary city with a liberal defense, liberal judge, liberal prosecution, suppression of evidence, coverup of failed sanctuary polices and liberal agencies that allowed the perp to murder and failure of the liberal prosecutor to present unbiased documented laboratory evidence to debunk the fabricated testimony?”

Apparently you have trouble distinguishing fact from opinion. Just because something spews across your keyboard from the depths of your brain doesn’t make it factual, no matter how many times you regurgitate it.

If you’re really interested in debating the issues, I’ll go there with you. I could use the entertainment. Bring your substantiated points and cite your sources and lets see what happens.

Again, you ignored all of the facts including suppression of priors (probably eligible for the 3 strikes law), suppression of evidence, failure of the prosecution to have the gun tested, failure to charge for a plethora of applicable associated violations, violating federal immigration laws by both the illegal alien and the state, etc., etc. etc.. Those are all facts, not opinions. Nice obfuscation though.

BTW, the DOJ just unsealed an arrest warrant for the POS.