Knock off baker builts installed! They look decent. Wish I could figure out how to upload a pic and would show you. I will be doing a you tube review though and will post here. No instructions and hardware is different then the baker builts so had to do a lot of trial and error on install. Took about 1 1/2 hours!! taking her out tomorrow in feels like 20 degrees so should get a good feel how they will help out the old phalanges!! went out couple days ago on feels like 20 and did not get out of the neighborhood before finger tips cold. was in decent amount of cold pain in 20 minutes, no highway, and that is with the fly ignitor 2s on high!