I speak from personal experience not hate. Hate is an emotion based on fear and lack of knowledge, just the opposite here. I have had extensive experience and as recently as 3 years ago took a Harley dealer to court, and won. No one complains about Harleys more than Harley owners and mostly out of frustration because they love the bike but hate the way they're killing the brand. One of those ways is by cranking out bikes without doing proper R&D as demonstrated by Polaris just posted a 74% increase in motorcycle sales.