I just traded in my 2006 Honda VTX 1300C for a 2013 red deluxe. It was hard to see it go. It hauled me to Alaska in 2013 and got me home again. Great first bike for me. I've been reading about the F6b for 2 years now and had to have one. The ride home from dealer was 110 miles and I must say you are all correct. I ordered the Madstad that night. The power is so much more than I expected. That is a good thing. The riding position is something I will need to get used to. My arse was a little sore on the way home. I'm hoping the stock seat breaks in. I had a mustang on my VTX and loved it. Anyway thanks for all the info from you guys I've been lurking for a yearAttachment 13467