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    Quote Originally Posted by JWExperience View Post
    My uncle bought a ninja 900 like the one Tom cruise rode in top gun(late 80’s) and when they were testing that engine they ran it at redline for like 24 hrs. Bikes these days are designed to run everywhere inside the redline for extended periods. I suspect that the redline has to do with where the power dropoff occurs because as was mentioned before, what’s the point to continue running the revs up if you’re losing power. I’m sure this engine could run at higher rpm but the 6k redline prob keeps it bullet proof and closer to the power band.
    Not that I care much, but testing the Ninja 900 at redline for 24 hours seem like a bit of a "stretch" and I would check the facts on that statement....Maybe true but I doubt it really happened.....Regards and ride safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by opas ride View Post
    Not that I care much, but testing the Ninja 900 at redline for 24 hours seem like a bit of a "stretch" and I would check the facts on that statement....Maybe true but I doubt it really happened.....Regards and ride safe
    Does seem like a stretch. How many tanks of gas would that require? Was it on a Dyno? What was the purpose of the test? And what did they do with the bike or motor after the test? I would never buy a motor that had been on a 24 hr redline test. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by jm21ddd15 View Post
    Does seem like a stretch. How many tanks of gas would that require? Was it on a Dyno? What was the purpose of the test? And what did they do with the bike or motor after the test? I would never buy a motor that had been on a 24 hr redline test. JMO
    Seriously? Manufacturers do torture tests like this for “bragging rights,” testing and sales. In all the infinite wisdom of the google I can’t find the GPz900R test but I recall a great YouTube series on the ford eco boost engine they use in the f150 doing about four different types of torture tests to the same engine. I think they put 100,000 miles on it. Kia tests its engines for 300+hours at full load and above redline for short periods. I’m not talking about joe dirt chocking the front wheel and pinning the throttle on a production bike for a full day. The point is, put oil in the damn bike, do some periodic maintenance and run it.
    https://youtu.be/GNPB3RtHN2M this is the link for the Kia testing video, it’s two minutes. If it doesn’t work, search Kia engine test in YouTube. It’s the first video.
    https://youtu.be/_jCmu6qJXX4 ford link, this video is more in depth and better because I like Ford and Mike Rowe.
    Last edited by JWExperience; 04-10-2019 at 08:25 PM. Reason: Ford link added

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWExperience View Post
    Seriously? Manufacturers do torture tests like this for “bragging rights,” testing and sales. In all the infinite wisdom of the google I can’t find the GPz900R test but I recall a great YouTube series on the ford eco boost engine they use in the f150 doing about four different types of torture tests to the same engine. I think they put 100,000 miles on it. Kia tests its engines for 300+hours at full load and above redline for short periods. I’m not talking about joe dirt chocking the front wheel and pinning the throttle on a production bike for a full day. The point is, put oil in the damn bike, do some periodic maintenance and run it.
    https://youtu.be/GNPB3RtHN2M this is the link for the Kia testing video, it’s two minutes. If it doesn’t work, search Kia engine test in YouTube. It’s the first video.
    https://youtu.be/_jCmu6qJXX4 ford link, this video is more in depth and better because I like Ford and Mike Rowe.
    Ok, good, glad someone else thinks this way too. Maybe it is an upstate NY thing.

    We get obsessed with creating the perfect engine operation profile for our bikes. I think it appeals to our engineering/perfectionist urges. What types of oils, warm up regimens, number of milliseconds at redline, and so on.

    What is the point? Are we gonna keep these bikes until they have 250,000+ miles on them? If so, great! If not, all you are doing is extending the life of an engine which will likely never get the opportunity to be tapped into because the bike be long gone by then.

    As JW says, change the oil once in awhile, follow the manufacturer's recommendations, and enjoy.

    If you exist to gain satisfaction and pride from neurotically maintaining your vehicles, enjoy that also!

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    As for engine longevity tests, I believe them. Not sure if they really tell us anything, though. I remember the 1948 Tucker (also a flat motor) was run around a track at WOT for 5,000 miles at the Indianapolis Speedway in the testing process. And that was in 1948!! I think Opas was there...
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    Do you drive your cars the same way? If not, why not? I don't get the mentality that if you are not going to keep the bike for 250,000 miles, be as rough on it as you can. Nobody buys an f6b so you can be the fastest bike on the road, because you are not. Why drive it like that? Why not get the fastest bike on the road if that is the goal? It's like buying a harley and paying for stage 4 engine work. You are trying to make it something it's not. I've never heard anyone say they chose the goldwing (or f6b) because hitting the rev limiter doesn't hurt it. What I have heard it is they chose the goldwing because of the smooth ride, comfort, ability, versatility, etc. Sounds like some here need to be on a hayabusa forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STRaider View Post
    Do you drive your cars the same way? If not, why not? I don't get the mentality that if you are not going to keep the bike for 250,000 miles, be as rough on it as you can. Nobody buys an f6b so you can be the fastest bike on the road, because you are not. Why drive it like that? Why not get the fastest bike on the road if that is the goal? It's like buying a harley and paying for stage 4 engine work. You are trying to make it something it's not. I've never heard anyone say they chose the goldwing (or f6b) because hitting the rev limiter doesn't hurt it. What I have heard it is they chose the goldwing because of the smooth ride, comfort, ability, versatility, etc. Sounds like some here need to be on a hayabusa forum.
    No I don't baby my cars either but they are automatics and for transportation where the bike is mostly for fun! Besides who ever said "be rough on it as you can"? Who ever said "be the fastest bike on the road"? You just make this stuff up? I'm too fat to ride a hayabusa but I do like to go above 4500 RPMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2wheelsforme View Post
    No I don't baby my cars either but they are automatics and for transportation where the bike is mostly for fun! Besides who ever said "be rough on it as you can"? Who ever said "be the fastest bike on the road"? You just make this stuff up? I'm too fat to ride a hayabusa but I do like to go above 4500 RPMs.
    Riding around trying to hit the rev limiter on a touring bike doesn't sound that fun, or much like a great idea. I ride plenty fast and don't hit the rev limiter. Sounds like you would ride a hyabusa but it wouldn't be a good fit, so you ride as if the f6b were a hyabusa, which would explain the riding style. Most choose the f6b to ride as an f6b. To each his own. Be safe.

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