Leaving California.........

[Ewreck]

No, I’m just attacking the stupid in this thread, the OP post is filled with accurate statistics but the way it’s worded and the jist of it is an attack on California and progressives. There is plenty of proof of foreign meddling in our election, even people sitting in jail for it.

Not that the editorial posted had anything to do with foreign meddling, I assume you mean in our elections so I also hope you understand we do the exact same thing to other countries. Do you have a link to this “proof” and the names of the people sitting in jail for it? I admit I haven’t had TV since 2013 but I am an avid reader. I also find it telling when you’re called out for “attacking” and then follow it up by calling said attackers stupid. Why don’t you pick out a particular part of the article you disagree with and tell us on the opposite side of the aisle why.

[Fourks]

Not that the editorial posted had anything to do with foreign meddling, I assume you mean in our elections so I also hope you understand we do the exact same thing to other countries. Do you have a link to this “proof” and the names of the people sitting in jail for it? I admit I haven’t had TV since 2013 but I am an avid reader. I also find it telling when you’re called out for “attacking” and then follow it up by calling said attackers stupid. Why don’t you pick out a particular part of the article you disagree with and tell us on the opposite side of the aisle why.

"flee the devastation of California and join your culture, your values. Be wary, however, of those coming to bring their devastation to Arizona". Looks like we are suggesting a civil war? Whose culture and values are we defending? THis statement is stupid. If you can't take it, dont dish it.

[Ewreck]

"flee the devastation of California and join your culture, your values. Be wary, however, of those coming to bring their devastation to Arizona". Looks like we are suggesting a civil war? Whose culture and values are we defending? THis statement is stupid. If you can't take it, dont dish it.

Nothing particularly wrong with that statement. I assume by your previous posts you have no problem with Colorado becoming a liberal state with all the same benefits California offers its inhabitants. Is it the doubling of your property taxes, 5 dollar a gallon gas, 10% sales tax, social services being devoured by illegal aliens, horrible public schools, pensions that can never be paid, unaffordable houses, or the millions of homeless and poor that have a zero chance in the 3rd largest economy in the world. If you think CA is a success for the majority of its population I’d hate to know what you think a failure is. Not that it matters to you but I lived there and witnessed the slow rot for most, not all, and it’s real. My son still lives there, makes a good living, pays 3600.00 a month rent for a 1200 sq’ house yet can’t afford his own as the median home price where he works is over 1.2 million. Yes it’s a beautiful state but to think or believe any politician is properly running it is laughable. Sierra Mountains, hot job market, high wages, free thinkers. Why are there record numbers of people leaving?

[Fourks]

I don't think any politician is running anything properly. One of the reasons i'm considering Trump who is finally enforcing the law and has the correct foreign policies. The socialist left scares me as much as the fascist right. So there has to be some common ground, and suggesting that fellow Americans could bring devastation in a state because of their views being different is un American.

[Ewreck]

I don't think any politician is running anything properly. One of the reasons i'm considering Trump who is finally enforcing the law and has the correct foreign policies. The socialist left scares me as much as the fascist right. So there has to be some common ground, and suggesting that fellow Americans could bring devastation in a state because of their views being different is un American.

But they do bring devastation do they not? Someone is responsible for the negative things happening to a segment of the population. I dislike both parties as they no longer have the best interest of the US citizen but I am 100% conservative. The Socialists and Communists are no longer hiding in the Democratic Party but I do not see a Fascist Right equal in any aspect but maybe you can give me some examples. It’s difficult to compete or challenge the left when they have taken over media, education, and news. Instead of defending or debating the merits of their policies, they hide behind the words racist, homophobe, islamaphobe, etc. as most of their policies are indefensible. The right doesn’t have any redeeming qualities either but to pretend there’s not a huge advantage when it comes to the battlefield of politics is disingenuous. Today’s politician is basically two sides of the same coin as true conservatism no longer exists at least at the federal level.

[Cooter]

But they do bring devastation do they not? Someone is responsible for the negative things happening to a segment of the population. I dislike both parties as they no longer have the best interest of the US citizen but I am 100% conservative. The Socialists and Communists are no longer hiding in the Democratic Party but I do not see a Fascist Right equal in any aspect but maybe you can give me some examples. It’s difficult to compete or challenge the left when they have taken over media, education, and news. Instead of defending or debating the merits of their policies, they hide behind the words racist, homophobe, islamaphobe, etc. as most of their policies are indefensible. The right doesn’t have any redeeming qualities either but to pretend there’s not a huge advantage when it comes to the battlefield of politics is disingenuous. Today’s politician is basically two sides of the same coin as true conservatism no longer exists at least at the federal level.

Man , that's s mouthful of truth. I can't claim to be a Dem or a Rep. If you listen to them they both want lower taxes. Then how can we have higher taxes. All liars for the most part. We need a new party. Conservative. For my part I'm proud to have voted for Donald Trump. I believe he has done more for our country in 2 years than Obama and Bush did in 16. I like a billionaire in office. He's not out to get my money.

[BIGLRY]

For my part I'm proud to have voted for Donald Trump. I believe he has done more for our country in 2 years than Obama and Bush did in 16. I like a billionaire in office. He's not out to get my money.