NFL sucks!

[dadeo]

I disagree with this in every way:

"I also believe that the unfair treatment that minorities purportedly endure from law enforcement is hugely blown out of proportion. Getting pulled over and not cooperating; and demanding “respect” is not going to fly well.... for anyone... black or white when encountering law enforcement."

Why?
Because I've seen it. I had to intervene with Fairfax County cop who thought it was a good idea to go after my neighbor's kid. Black kid. Out late at night walking his big dog. No ID. So was I... So don't tell me that some LEOs don't have a hard on for going after black kids in an otherwise white neighborhood.

I used to think every LEO should be given the benefit of the doubt in every situation, after all my wife's cousin was a NYC cop until he was killed by a stupid kid throwing trash off the roof of a 5 storey walk up. But that 1993 weekend taught me allot about cops and Republican politicians. The cop union bosses (not the precinct rep) linked up with Republican mayoral candidate Rudy Giuliani and tried to use his death as a political issue. Old Rudy made a stupid kid's dumb act into a Federal offense. Against the wishes of the cops and our family, who only wanted to be let alone. And this was before social media, the fake news media and the rest. You know that the only news outlet that got the story right: The New York Times. The supposedly Liberal Media. They were the only ones that had the decency to ask us for interviews and treat us with respect. The tabloids, NY Post, Daily News, Newsday, would ambush us in the street, outside the funeral home, our hotels, and where we ate. They made up stories based on the word of a wanna be that he had a fiance and or was secretly married. It was awful. I view these guys as today's version of Internet trolls, who don't care what the facts are, but are just out to write up their own version of events. I can't imagine what such an event is like today. Conservative medial and Rudy. Perfect together.

You know what they say: A liberal is someone whose been falsely accused, but also one who has burned by conservative media, or in my case, witnessed such.

[taxfree4]

I disagree with this in every way:

"I also believe that the unfair treatment that minorities purportedly endure from law enforcement is hugely blown out of proportion. Getting pulled over and not cooperating; and demanding “respect” is not going to fly well.... for anyone... black or white when encountering law enforcement."

Why?
Because I've seen it. I had to intervene with Fairfax County cop who thought it was a good idea to go after my neighbor's kid. Black kid. Out late at night walking his big dog. No ID. So was I... So don't tell me that some LEOs don't have a hard on for going after black kids in an otherwise white neighborhood.

I used to think every LEO should be given the benefit of the doubt in every situation, after all my wife's cousin was a NYC cop until he was killed by a stupid kid throwing trash off the roof of a 5 storey walk up. But that 1993 weekend taught me allot about cops and Republican politicians. The cop union bosses (not the precinct rep) linked up with Republican mayoral candidate Rudy Giuliani and tried to use his death as a political issue. Old Rudy made a stupid kid's dumb act into a Federal offense. Against the wishes of the cops and our family, who only wanted to be let alone. And this was before social media, the fake news media and the rest. You know that the only news outlet that got the story right: The New York Times. The supposedly Liberal Media. They were the only ones that had the decency to ask us for interviews and treat us with respect. The tabloids, NY Post, Daily News, Newsday, would ambush us in the street, outside the funeral home, our hotels, and where we ate. They made up stories based on the word of a wanna be that he had a fiance and or was secretly married. It was awful. I view these guys as today's version of Internet trolls, who don't care what the facts are, but are just out to write up their own version of events. I can't imagine what such an event is like today. Conservative medial and Rudy. Perfect together.


You know what they say: A liberal is someone whose been falsely accused, but also one who has burned by conservative media, or in my case, witnessed such.

Intervene a cop doing his duty? You're lucky you didn't wind up with a bullet in your ass. First of all you are required to carry and show ID when asked by an officer. So he was walking a dog, let me guess a toy poodle, and an officer asks him for ID and he says he doesn't have any, red flag no matter what color you are. If there was a nationwide epidemic of black youths in white neighborhoods randomly planting impatience, begonias and tulips I guess there wouldn't be a problem, however, reality being what it is you make your own world. Unfortunately, the people Colin Kapersnake should be mad at is the black youths who do assassinate cops :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdRrG7qz5CQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku7PpEc64xI (This one they have the shooter on DHS cameras at the Atlantic Avenue Train Station walking past two black officers and exiting the station to assassinate two white officers. These shootings came after a BLM rally where the crowd was chanting "What do we want, dead cops, when do we want them, now)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQXmnMr_w8

That's who Colin Kapersnake should be protesting against since he is picking on a minority of officers he overlooks the not so minority of black youths who are inculcated from youths to hate cops and be defiant against them. These are the people who make it bad for the rest of them, put cops on edge. And because you have a personal experience doesn't mean you can broad brush all LEO, so what your neighbor's kid learned to always carry ID, big deal, it'll save him a hassle next time.

As far as that story about the cop I'm pretty sure it wasn't trash, I worked in Harlem for 10 years and if I remember that particular story it was a compound bucket aimed and dropped on the head of a police officer. I worked for the phone company there and when we were working we would constantly have to look up because the little bastards would drop bricks, bottles or anything they got their hands on and laugh doing it so tell me about the plight of these poor kids who have nothing better to do than to injure and maybe kill people for fun. Just around the same time in Washington Heights they were throwing Molotov Cocktails at Fire Engines responding to fires.

Guaranteed you voted for Hillary

And just to make it fair I have no problem with cops profiling a car full of Italian guys in a sedan with a low rear trunk area, 9 times out of 10 there is a body or two in there so profiling is a good thing.

[Walcrow]

Just where is Springfield, Vagina? I can't seem to find it on Google Earth

[dadeo]

Just where is Springfield, Vagina? I can't seem to find it on Google Earth

VA would be the great "commonwealth" located to the south of Maryland and DC. I guess. Did I misspell it typo. Didn't mean to!

BTW, I've lived here for 35 years. What the heck is a commonwealth? and why is it different from just any old state? I know there are some other states that like this word.

[taxfree4]

Just where is Springfield, Vagina? I can't seem to find it on Google Earth

It's not far from Intercourse PA.

[dadeo]

you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

Seriously, you expect that a 14 year old kid in a low crime neighborhood like ours to get harassed by a cop just b/c he wasn't carrying ID. Are you nuts?

The kids dog was no poodle. The crazy cop was lucky that the kid's Doberman behaved...

But you are obviously off your rocker if you think a kid is going to be carrying around his high school ID when walking a dog in our neighborhood. I wasn't carrying mine. By the way the cop was not uniformed. He was off duty! And he didn't identify himself until I confronted him -- after I got om cell with the local police. When I walked up I had no clue who the clown who was harassing the kid was, but I was sure not going to stand by while he questioned "WTF" my neighbor was doing outside walkin the dog. The situation ended with me handing the phone to the cop, and him being told to walk away with an apology. Which he eventually did. I was asked if I wanted to file a complaint. I decided to drop it the next day after I was told that the guy's supervisor had called the kid's parent. Yeah it was ugly. And it could have been worse, but it wasn't.

So, if you think there aren't any cops with a chip on their shoulder you really don't know much. At all. Fortunately most cops are honest and do care. It's the guys who are on power trips that should be taken off the force.

Intervene a cop doing his duty? You're lucky you didn't wind up with a bullet in your ass. First of all you are required to carry and show ID when asked by an officer. So he was walking a dog, let me guess a toy poodle, and an officer asks him for ID and he says he doesn't have any, red flag no matter what color you are. If there was a nationwide epidemic of black youths in white neighborhoods randomly planting impatience, begonias and tulips I guess there wouldn't be a problem, however, reality being what it is you make your own world. Unfortunately, the people Colin Kapersnake should be mad at is the black youths who do assassinate cops :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdRrG7qz5CQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku7PpEc64xI (This one they have the shooter on DHS cameras at the Atlantic Avenue Train Station walking past two black officers and exiting the station to assassinate two white officers. These shootings came after a BLM rally where the crowd was chanting "What do we want, dead cops, when do we want them, now)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQXmnMr_w8

That's who Colin Kapersnake should be protesting against since he is picking on a minority of officers he overlooks the not so minority of black youths who are inculcated from youths to hate cops and be defiant against them. These are the people who make it bad for the rest of them, put cops on edge. And because you have a personal experience doesn't mean you can broad brush all LEO, so what your neighbor's kid learned to always carry ID, big deal, it'll save him a hassle next time.

As far as that story about the cop I'm pretty sure it wasn't trash, I worked in Harlem for 10 years and if I remember that particular story it was a compound bucket aimed and dropped on the head of a police officer. I worked for the phone company there and when we were working we would constantly have to look up because the little bastards would drop bricks, bottles or anything they got their hands on and laugh doing it so tell me about the plight of these poor kids who have nothing better to do than to injure and maybe kill people for fun. Just around the same time in Washington Heights they were throwing Molotov Cocktails at Fire Engines responding to fires.

Guaranteed you voted for Hillary

[Davidk]

you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

Seriously, you expect that a 14 year old kid in a low crime neighborhood like ours to get harassed by a cop just b/c he wasn't carrying ID. Are you nuts?

The kids dog was no poodle. The crazy cop was lucky that the kid's Doberman behaved...

But you are obviously off your rocker if you think a kid is going to be carrying around his high school ID when walking a dog in our neighborhood. I wasn't carrying mine. By the way the cop was not uniformed. He was off duty! And he didn't identify himself until I confronted him -- after I got om cell with the local police. When I walked up I had no clue who the clown who was harassing the kid was, but I was sure not going to stand by while he questioned "WTF" my neighbor was doing outside walkin the dog. The situation ended with me handing the phone to the cop, and him being told to walk away with an apology. Which he eventually did. I was asked if I wanted to file a complaint. I decided to drop it the next day after I was told that the guy's supervisor had called the kid's parent. Yeah it was ugly. And it could have been worse, but it wasn't.

So, if you think there aren't any cops with a chip on their shoulder you really don't know much. At all. Fortunately most cops are honest and do care. It's the guys who are on power trips that should be taken off the force.

Don’t forget that the entire domestic terrorist organization, BLM, was built on the “Hands up, don’t shoot” lie.

[taxfree4]

you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

Seriously, you expect that a 14 year old kid in a low crime neighborhood like ours to get harassed by a cop just b/c he wasn't carrying ID. Are you nuts?

The kids dog was no poodle. The crazy cop was lucky that the kid's Doberman behaved...

But you are obviously off your rocker if you think a kid is going to be carrying around his high school ID when walking a dog in our neighborhood. I wasn't carrying mine. By the way the cop was not uniformed. He was off duty! And he didn't identify himself until I confronted him -- after I got om cell with the local police. When I walked up I had no clue who the clown who was harassing the kid was, but I was sure not going to stand by while he questioned "WTF" my neighbor was doing outside walkin the dog. The situation ended with me handing the phone to the cop, and him being told to walk away with an apology. Which he eventually did. I was asked if I wanted to file a complaint. I decided to drop it the next day after I was told that the guy's supervisor had called the kid's parent. Yeah it was ugly. And it could have been worse, but it wasn't.

So, if you think there aren't any cops with a chip on their shoulder you really don't know much. At all. Fortunately most cops are honest and do care. It's the guys who are on power trips that should be taken off the force.

The cop is lucky? Are you serious if that Doberman would have made a move the only thing going through that dog's mind would have been a slug. So that is your basis for what you call systemic police "racism" in this country - a 14 year old with no ID being questioned is tantamount to harassment. This is your example? Apparently it wasn't that bad as you yourself said you decided not to file a complaint. You'd never make it here if that's your threshold. Colin Kapersnake is taking a knee reading this because he's laughing his ass off.

It's guys like you that are enablers who tell these kids that everything that happens to them is because of their race and THAT is the real problem. They grow up and when confronted by failure in life instead of teaching them to persevere and learn from their mistakes you teach them to blame someone else and take no responsibility for their actions. You can't help but see race in everything and are really the true racists. You complain about Giuliani using death as a political issue while you are using this non incident as political and social issue and an indictment on cops. Only ventriloquists can talk out of both sides of their mouth.

[3Chief]

First of all you are required to carry and show ID when asked by an officer.

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Please show me that statute. As far as I know you're only required to identify yourself when asked. You're not required to carry ID with you at all times, however it's probably the smarter thing to do these days. The more unfortunate truth is that there are a few to many people in law enforcement and society in general that feel they have a right to impose their views upon the rest of us regardless of the law. I don't care what neighborhood you're in or what type of dog you're walking. As long as you're walking that dog and minding your own business nobody from law enforcement should bother you even if it isn't your neighborhood. Far to many busybodies these days that have nothing better to do than harass others and stick their noses where they don't belong.

[taxfree4]

Please show me that statute. As far as I know you're only required to identify yourself when asked. You're not required to carry ID with you at all times, however it's probably the smarter thing to do these days. The more unfortunate truth is that there are a few to many people in law enforcement and society in general that feel they have a right to impose their views upon the rest of us regardless of the law. I don't care what neighborhood you're in or what type of dog you're walking. As long as you're walking that dog and minding your own business nobody from law enforcement should bother you even if it isn't your neighborhood. Far to many busybodies these days that have nothing better to do than harass others and stick their noses where they don't belong.

I said "First of all you are required to carry and show ID when asked by an officer."
He says "As far as I know you're only required to identify yourself when asked."

Can someone from alpha crypto translations tell me the difference in these two statements, anyway:

New York is a "Stop and ID" state which allows exactly that if the police think a crime has/is/about to be committed - translation - "We've had some reports about robberies in the area do you live around here? Can I see some ID." If I had a dollar every time I've heard that so I say "No problem officer here you go." A little run through the NCIC for any outstanding warrants and a "Thank you for your cooperation." That's the price you pay for living in a, as dadeo says, "low crime white neighborhood." and I'm OK with that because my family left the inner city years ago.

Where we came from was right across the street from the Marcy Avenue Projects in Brooklyn, a shithole, where the drug dealer/rapper Jay Z escaped from, 32 Nostrand Ave, google it. When I worked for the phone company that was a 4 man area meaning 1 guy to escort the technician 2 guys to stay in the truck so they don't rob the truck/contents so please spare me your 'minding your own business" bullshit. The assassin who slaughtered the 2 cops was "minding his own business" until he found his target, got into a firing stance and pulled the trigger. The thief/rapist/murderer are "minding their own business" till they see their mark. That may work out in Bumfuck, Illinois but it's not reality. If a little inconvenience is the price I pay for living in a, as dadeo puts it, a "low crime white neighborhood"so be it, NO ONE aspires to work hard, save their $ to move their family into the slums they do it to get the fuck out as fast as they can like my father did. Like Jay Z, OJ and Colin let them all kill themselves but I'm not going back I'm staying right here in my low crime white neighborhood.

Now if that 14 y.o. was stopped on a nightly basis and ID'd you may have an argument but to run around in this schoolgirl hysteria about how horrible, traumatic and devastating it was to this poor little boy, get over it, keep coddling him and you'll wind up with a spoiled, under achieving, attentioned starved, American hating mediocre player who thinks taking a knee is tantamount to doing something. OOPS, that job is taken.